“Protection”. HA!!

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Based on the philosophy of a portion of the left is that the police do more harm than good. There’s some who view a “softer” approach as better.

This is a good point. In domestic dispute type cases instead of having a cop go to the residence the town will send in a marriage/crisis counselor to sit and talk with the couple.

Something like that, but they do need to assess the potential for violence etc.

Many of those aren’t cop jobs though.

And new programs won’t show immediate results.

The judicial system is complicit in blue privilege.

Then at the expense of what?

Who are the police protecting who from what?

I agree with them.

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Let the towns that want to eliminate their police do so. If they don’t believe that is effective or even worse harmful then try something else. Personally I have no problem with that. For the people that do move out of those towns.

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Right. Vote on it.

Long term results are the goal here. We’ve been putting on bandaids long enough. There are a couple of cities already doing this and having some good results. I’m going to have to look them up.

I’m with you on that. But you can’t abandon current police levels in the interim.

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I don’t disagree. It cannot be done recklessly.

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You can’t help addicts until they are ready to quit. Usually that doesn’t occur until they hit rock bottom and have lost everything.

If anything there should be more focus on both drug testing and counseling in jail/prisons but we’ve wasted untold billions on community based drug counseling efforts for addicts.

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Good way to get marriage counselors killed or beaten to a pulp.

The first thing you have to do is stop the fighting and that generally requires force or at least the threat of same.

Ordering counseling after the fact can be productive though.

Apparently they are unaware domestic disputes are one of the most dangerous calls to respond to.

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lol… a lot of ya’ll are in for a rude awakening once the conversation expands.

Black Lives Matter is BIGGER than police brutality.
Black lives matter in regards to incarceration
In regards to our education system
In regards to housing
In regard to banking and loan discrimination
In regards to hiring bias
etc

We’re at the tip of the iceberg…

Speaking for myself, I specified that they need to assess the potential for violence. The people who coordinate these kinds of reforms, and they have been done successfully with dramatic results, are experienced police training professionals with long track records. Y’all act like they are just going to get rid of police altogether. The extremists might be demanding that, but that is how the game is played. The best answer is usually somewhere between both ends of the spectrum.

While BLM is solving all the black man’s problems, perhaps they can also work on:

Black on black crime
Broken families
Absent fathers
generational welfare

Perhaps working on these issues would also fix some fo the ones you listed.

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Every domestic is a very high risk situation. Even one that seems mild can go bad in a split second.