How long until stayed, new Biden OSHA rule is out

[zantax]

@PurpnGold

@zantax

Best vaccine ever lol

It’s has actually been proven to be so…

Really? When was your last polio booster.

[PurpnGold]

@zantax

Really? When was your last polio booster.

Don’t need it because THAT vaccine people don’t mind a mandate.

Oh and polio is not the same type of virus as covid.

[PurpnGold]

Me: “smartphones are the greatest phones Eva!”
You: “oh yea, when was the last time you had to charge your rotary phone?”

Yea got me there slick…

[gooddad409]

@zantax

@GrandWazoo

@gooddad409

NIH admits it and you still have some people believing TV man instead.

The NIH admitted to funding the lab. They never said that the virus came from the lab. And there is still no solid evidence that it came from there. And China is never going to admit if it did. I believe that we will never know.

Like I said, if someone doesn’t know without an admission from the Chinese already, they should probably work on their critical thinking skills a bit.

Bingo. That person would be in deep denial.

[gooddad409]

@Ceasar

@Bill.in.PA

Yes, I expect that the dozens of lawsuits will be filed in the next few days. The use of OSHA to trample on the rights of employees is taking tyranny to a new level.

I suggest that states make it illegal for employers to request vaccination status since it is confidential health information and require that employees be subject to the same testing requirements regardless of vaccination status. That would remove the federal incentive to force vaccinations.

As Jen Psaki demonstrates, the vaccines do not prevent infection. Vaccinated employees are just as likely to spread the disease if they are infected.

If weekly testing makes sense for the unvaccinated, it makes sense for the vaccinated as well.

A friend of mine recently almost died from getting the 2nd shot. Blood clots. Twice had to be revived.

Another friend’s mom just died this evening from getting the booster shot.

Both women fell ill shortly after getting the shot’s.

A lady at our church fell ill immediately and died 4 days later. Was in a coma for about 3 days.

There is some risk involved whether one gets it or doesn’t get it.

One needs to talk with their dr and decide what to do concerning the vaccine.

[Toll_Collector]

I get the best of both worlds. I’m vaccinated but I won’t be showing them proof. I’ll show them negative results, and I won’t have to wear a mask.

[WuWei]

@zantax

@WuWei

@Camp

Nope. Antigen response to an actual…rather than mock infection is always better.

There are several assumptions in that statement that are case dependent.

I am opposed to mandates, but there is little to no reason not to take the vaccine if one is medically able.

Even if it only increases the odds of survival 0.001%, is it not worth doing?

Depends, what is the serious complication percentage over someone’s life? What is their risk of serious consequences from Covid? If my kids were still little, I wouldn’t get them the jab. The risk to healthy children is minimal. I would wait for a traditional attenuated virus vaccine. I would say I would pull them out of school to avoid it, but given where we are today, that would have already happened.

For clarification, I am referring to adults in the context of the OSHA rule.

[gooddad409]

@zantax

@WuWei

@Camp

Nope. Antigen response to an actual…rather than mock infection is always better.

There are several assumptions in that statement that are case dependent.

I am opposed to mandates, but there is little to no reason not to take the vaccine if one is medically able.

Even if it only increases the odds of survival 0.001%, is it not worth doing?

Depends, what is the serious complication percentage over someone’s life? What is their risk of serious consequences from Covid? If my kids were still little, I wouldn’t get them the jab. The risk to healthy children is minimal. I would wait for a traditional attenuated virus vaccine. I would say I would pull them out of school to avoid it, but given where we are today, that would have already happened.

I have a couple of young grandchildren(one only 2) my daughter has no intention of vaccinating. They are considering private schools or home schooling.

Their risk (from covid) is minimal and we don’t know the long term risk from the vaccine.

Iceland has suspended Moderna shots to teenagers while they study some cases of heart inflammation that have occurred.

[WuWei]

@PurpnGold

Don’t need it because THAT vaccine people don’t mind a mandate.

That has nothing to do with if a booster is needed or not.

@PurpnGold

Oh and polio is not the same type of virus as covid.

There’s a point there, not sure you know what it is.

[gooddad409]

@Toll_Collector

I get the best of both worlds. I’m vaccinated but I won’t be showing them proof. I’ll show them negative results, and I won’t have to wear a mask.

I’m retired but will not show the card to anyone demanding to see it. None of their business.

[Toll_Collector]

So boosters aren’t a requirement?

[gooddad409]

@Toll_Collector

So boosters aren’t a requirement?

For what? A retiree?

[Toll_Collector]

@gooddad409

@Toll_Collector

So boosters aren’t a requirement?

For what? A retiree?

What I’m saying is, Covid may require people to take yearly shots like the flu. So what would be the point of the mandate?

[zantax]

@PurpnGold

@zantax

Really? When was your last polio booster.

Don’t need it because THAT vaccine people don’t mind a mandate.

Oh and polio is not the same type of virus as covid.

Name a single vaccine that required a booster at six months and still left you open to infection and transmitting the target disease. Look, it’s better than nothing but a miracle vaccine, lol.

[Toll_Collector]

@zantax

Name a single vaccine that required a booster at six months and still left you open to infection and transmitting the target disease. Look, it’s better than nothing but a miracle vaccine, lol.

It has already been 8 months for me. I’m probably not getting a booster.

[gooddad409]

@Toll_Collector

@gooddad409

@Toll_Collector

So boosters aren’t a requirement?

For what? A retiree?

What I’m saying is, Covid may require people to take yearly shots like the flu. So what would be the point of the mandate?

Oh ok. If it is recommended that is one thing. Mandates i have trouble with.

i can’t see me risking many boosters personally having already had 1 bad reaction to shot 2.

Just speaking for me personally.

[WuWei]

I was reading the ETS

3. Prior COVID-19 infections. OSHA determined that workers who have been infected with COVID-19 but have not been fully vaccinated still face a grave danger from workplace exposure to SARS-CoV-2. This is an area of ongoing scientific inquiry. Given scientific uncertainty and limitations in testing for infection and immunity, OSHA is concerned that it would be infeasible for employers to operationalize a standard that would permit or require an exception from vaccination or testing and face covering based on prior infection with COVID-19.

The fact that COVID–19 is not a uniquely work-related hazard does not change the determination that it is a grave danger to which employees are exposed, nor does it excuse employers from their duty to protect employees from the occupational transmission of SARS–CoV–2.

[Cratic3947]

They are calling it Vaxx Apartheid

[WuWei]

OSHA is being arrogant.

[conan]

Well it seems 5th circuit court had other plans.

https://www.reuters.com/world/us/us-federal-appeals-court-issues-stay-bidens-vaccine-rule-us-companies-2021-11-06/

WASHINGTON, Nov 6 (Reuters) - A U.S. federal appeals court issued a stay Saturday freezing the Biden administration’s efforts to require workers at U.S. companies with at least 100 employees be vaccinated against COVID-19 or be tested weekly, citing “grave statutory and constitutional” issues with the rule.

The ruling from the United States Court of Appeals for the Fifth Circuit comes after numerous Republican-led states filed legal challenges against the new rule, which is set to take effect on Jan 4.