We have??
Some have expressed valid concerns on the possible abuses of them, but PRETTY sure nobody is against reporting a kid with drawings that depicted mass shootings. Have seen quite a bit of support for the last one KNOWN BY LAW ENFORCEMENT to be danger to others.

Come-back when you have something of substance to offer.

We all now clearly see the @left have no real desire to address the causes of these shootings. Their ONLY goal is to disarm one step at a time those of us who own firearms.

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Okay. Based on drawings, you are down to deny someone’s rights?

I am not “offering” anything. I am trying to understand the right’s schizophrenic approach to this problem, after the cataclysmic collapse of “thoughts and prayers” and “good guys with guns”.

So far, the same can be said of the right. All we are getting is pablum about atomic families and values, and vague nods to mental health

Perhaps, but that is not me

Wrong question.

Right question is: Based on drawings, are you down for mental health evaluations?

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Is the mental health review required by law? Can they decline?

To allign more with your views. Here is the difference, you want less people to own guns, our view is if you don’t want one, don’t buy one. So, who is pushing their views onto others?

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Sure it isn’t, every single suggestion brought up gets shot down. Name ONE SINGLE solution from the left that has ZERO impact on someone such as myself. Aa it stands today, with my CCW permit, I can go to any ffl in the state and purchase a firearm and walk out with it in 20 mins max, before my CCW it would take longer due to the NGC and possible wait reaponse which then neccitates a 2nd trip several days later. We are already limited on style (no full auto, suppressors without a seperate process), waiting period in some states, etc.

There are NO suggestions from the left to address the missed obvious signs that have been tied directly to several of the latest shootings. No, just a rush to pass mag size limits, AW ban, etc.

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I understand your point. I take that stand re: abortion. Don’t like it? Don’t have one.

This is why my position isn’t for buy backs or outlawing anything. Where I live, who I am, my expereinces…I have no use for guns. But I’m not everyone. We are a big country and their are all kinds of ways to live. And some people want, or need, guns in their lives.

So I wish for a…not sure what the right term is…more respectful?..attitude toward guns.

I just see people hoarding this SA rifles, and running around screaming about people coming for their guns…and you read about Lanza’s mother giving him a check to buy a pistol…and the columbine kids geting a TEc 9 from a stawman purchaser…Uvalda buying a rifle on his 18th B-day…

I don’t know…whatever. nothing is gonna change. We’re gonna keep all our guns, we’re gonna keep shooting each other with them.

It is what it is.

Again, we know only about the kids who aren’t picked out and recevie help, right?

That does in fact happen alot. At least in my experience with our school.

But of course, we hear about the one out how many? A thousand? Ten thousand?..that somehow no one noticed or did anything about.

IMO depending on school teacher and parents isn’t a great soultion. We all can only do so much, and sometimes people miss things and make mistakes.

The reason people talk about the guns is, that’s the choke point, the one 100% commonality in mass shootings, and the one thing that can be more greatly controlled than ‘gee tommy drew a weird cat. I wonder if he’s a killer…’

It’s a public school.

I feel like you’ve made a break through.

I wish the same thing, more than you do. Way more.

The difference between us you believe you can legislate a “more respectful attitude” toward everything.

I know better.

Your authoritarian high modernism is the cause of your frustration. You can’t force these people to do anything, it’s counter-productive.

The more you grasp at it, the further it slips away.

Freedom is a very messy thing, not yours for you, mine for you. When people have freedom, we have to live with the choices they make.

It’s no different than raising a teenager. There will come a day when they say something to the effect of "I’m old enough to make (some) of my own decisions; and they are. It’s a natural transition. And when you permit it, you have to live with their decisions and they with the consequences of them. That’s how we learn to make better decisions, if it doesn’t kill us.

We have a lot of broken boys in this country, and we broke them. We helicoptered over them to keep them from ever failing, from handling their own bullies, etc. We tried to create a perfect world for them to grow up happy in.

While knowing full well the world is not perfect and they were going to fail and get beat up. And because we took the little failures away from, when it inevitably happens is catastrophic.

We treated them with kid gloves knowing full well life was going to punch them in the face eventually. We didn’t prepare them, we coddled them. It was mostly their mothers, but the fathers let it happen. They need FATHERS, not friends.

The males of this country are absent. Even when they are physically present. These boys need them there.

And guess what else is happening; a lot of fathers in this country are crumbling. Falling apart.

You want to make a difference? Start there. Take some of that Green Myth/Ukraine money and set up support groups for fathers. Get some knights in to talk to them.

Take some of the pressure off. Stop telling a ditch digger he’s a failure if he can’t send his son to college. Fix the schools - refocus them on the basic skills one needs to have a “good life”, not their “dream life”.

Take some of that money and invest it in technical competency. Skills. Stop lying to them by telling them they can be anything they want to be - they can’t.

Take the crit ■■■■ out of orgs like Boy’s Clubs and Boy Scouts (that last is going to take some work).

Stop lying to women by telling they can raise a boy without a man. In fact, when it comes to boys past about the age of 6, women pretty much need to shut up. They don’t know what they’re talking about and no value to add.

Help orgs that help boys without fathers, grandfathers or uncles. I don’t care if it is a church.

Stop calling being a man “toxic masculinity”. Help those who would teach them a creed to live by. A set of principles.

Those organizations are out there, struggling.

Stop suspending them from school for making a pop tart pistol.

In other words, stop ■■■■■■■ with them.

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That wasn’t the question.

And what is? Government?

Why is there a preacher who sits on the roof of a building in the dead of winter to raise funds, yet we have money to piss away in Ukraine?

America’s Boys First™

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Recruiting is down. Set up some government funded Men’s Military Academies and put the little psychos there until they learn how to act.

Of course you’ve critted up the military so bad we may not be able to find enough men left to staff it.

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If you were trying to stop bank robberies, would you try to cure a million people, or would you increase security at the banks?

Interesting post.

Hope I have time to respond today, but more likely next week.

Have a great weekend.

What?

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You have no response.

Marty-McFly-What

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Your logic?

Quit printing money.

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