How far down the rabbit hole will the left go on gender?

[Jezcoe]

@zeitgeist

@Jezcoe

Russia enacts laws that suppress individual freedom.

Whatever you will claim, the development in USA regarding this issue is wrong. That individuals have the freedom to live however they want, but the vast majority of the society (especially the kids and the youth) has to be protected. Promoting LGBT propaganda has nothing common with any individual freedom

The right to free expression is an individual freedom.

We kind of like those things over here in the States.

[zeitgeist]

@Jezcoe

The right to free expression is an individual freedom.

LGBT propaganda isnt free expression, but a sneaky trick to pervert more and more people and indoctrinate the kids.
Regard it from the other perspective: Putins laws protect the LGBt community as well, because if you advocate freedom of expression, then pls grant the freedom of expression of the average ordinary Russian as well, and we know how they usually react when drag queens and other odd birds like that are staging their show in public, or any LGBT activists spread their propaganda in public…

[zeitgeist]

@Jezcoe

We kind of like those things over here in the States.

USA is the negative model regarding this issue, its the how not to do it

[Jezcoe]

@zeitgeist

@Jezcoe

The right to free expression is an individual freedom.

LGBT propaganda isnt free expression, but a sneaky trick to pervert more and more people and indoctrinate the kids.
Regard it from the other perspective: Putins laws protect the LGBt community as well, because if you advocate freedom of expression, then pls grant the freedom of expression of the average ordinary Russian as well, and we know how they usually react when drag queens and other odd birds like that are staging their show in public, or any LGBT activists spread their propaganda in public…

Freely expressing oneself is an individual right.

Cont really use the “its for their own good” argument since a no one has the right to act violently… which is what I am guess that you are getting at.

[Jezcoe]

@zeitgeist

@Jezcoe

We kind of like those things over here in the States.

USA is the negative model regarding this issue, its the how not to do it

Nah… we are doing okay on this issue.

More freedom.

Yay!

[zeitgeist]

@Jezcoe

Freely expressing oneself is an individual right.

For the average Russian as well !

[quote=“Jezcoe, post:165, topic:201754”] no one has the right to act violently…
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and no one should have the right to indoctrinate kids with gender transition crap, until their parents decide to start hormon supression therapy (sick!) or to pervert the society with LGBT propaganda

[zeitgeist]

@Jezcoe

Nah… we are doing okay on this issue.

Totally insane and sick to have kids like Desmond celebrated like a star and kids startign hormon suppression therapy. It is like I said, USA is how not to do it regarding this issue, no matter how loud the likes of you would yell “individual freedom of expression” and so on

[Jezcoe]

@zeitgeist

@Jezcoe

Nah… we are doing okay on this issue.

Totally insane and sick to have kids like Desmond celebrated like a star and kids startign hormon suppression therapy. It is like I said, USA is how not to do it regarding this issue, no matter how loud the likes of you would yell “individual freedom of expression” and so on

All expressions of a right have an extreme.

That is not indicative of the majority.

Here… we have an individual right to free expression.

Sorry if you disagree with that right.

I personally think that it is pretty cool.

[zeitgeist]

You totally missed the priority regarding this issue.
Unlimited freedom of expression for LGBTqwerty so far its harmless for the rest of society. But when the consequences start to look like hormone suppression therapy for kids and drag queens at 10 like Desmond, then that freedom has to be restricted. They should have that freedom in their clubs and communities only and those who want to take up contact with them, are free to go into that clubs. The priority isnt the fun and the exhibition of that odd birds, just for the sake of freedom of expression

[Jezcoe]

@zeitgeist

You totally missed the priority regarding this issue.
Unlimited freedom of expression for LGBTqwerty so far its harmless for the rest of society. But when the consequences start to look like hormone suppression therapy for kids and drag queens at 10 like Desmond, then that freedom has to be restricted. They should have that freedom in their clubs and communities only and those who want to take up contact with them, are free to go into that clubs. The priority isnt the fun and the exhibition of that odd birds, just for the sake of freedom of expression

Those are medical decisions you are now talking about.

I am not sure how freedom of expression and medical decisions that show no cause of harm are in the interest of the State.

[zeitgeist]

No harm as you destroy the life of a kid from beginning, after indocrinating it with gender trasition and LGBt propaganda ?? No harm as you make kids available for pedophiles through that sneaky tricks? How many sexual partners had Desmond already?
Give me a break!

[zeitgeist]

Flagged! I will not permit you and your liberal fellow anymore to question permanently my location, my person, having the aim to discredit me and trying on that way to make a point in a discussion with it.
Debate the issue, not the person !

[JayJay]

@zeitgeist

Flagged! I will not permit you and your liberal fellow anymore to question permanently my location, my person, having the aim to discredit me and trying on that way to make a point in a discussion with it.
Debate the issue, not the person !

I told you why I mentioned your general location, and it was because your heritage doesn’t let you understand that we try to avoid limiting freedom of expression where possible.

It’s why we don’t arrest white supremacists just for being white supremacists, for example.

Where you are from is part and parcel of discussing the issue.

[Jezcoe]

@zeitgeist

No harm as you destroy the life of a kid from beginning, after indocrinating it with gender trasition and LGBt propaganda ?? No harm as you make kids available for pedophiles through that sneaky tricks? How many sexual partners had Desmond already?
Give me a break!

As stated before.

The Russian laws were put into place because of a moral panic over “pedophiles”… equating gaynesss or queerness to pedophilia.

The tactic may have worked in Russia… but the discernment here in the States is mote mature.

[Jezcoe]

@JayJay

@zeitgeist

Flagged! I will not permit you and your liberal fellow anymore to question permanently my location, my person, having the aim to discredit me and trying on that way to make a point in a discussion with it.
Debate the issue, not the person !

I told you why I mentioned your general location, and it was because your heritage doesn’t let you understand that we try to avoid limiting freedom of expression where possible.

It’s why we don’t arrest white supremacists just for being white supremacists, for example.

Exactly.

One has the freedom to express any viewpoint, but as long as the activity is legal, there is that individual right.

[zeitgeist]

@Jezcoe

The Russian laws were put into place because of a moral panic over “pedophiles”… equating gaynesss or queerness to pedophilia.

and they are right, when we take a look whats going on in USA, arent they?

[JayJay]

@zeitgeist

@Jezcoe

The Russian laws were put into place because of a moral panic over “pedophiles”… equating gaynesss or queerness to pedophilia.

and they are right, when we take a look whats going on in USA, arent they?

No they are not right.

[zeitgeist]

@Jezcoe

One has the freedom to express any viewpoint, but as long as the activity is legal, there is that individual right.

Laws decide what is legal and what not, and its illegal so far LGBT propganda is forbiden by law in schools and universities and in public generally, knowing the harmful consequences if it would be free.

[JayJay]

@zeitgeist

@Jezcoe

One has the freedom to express any viewpoint, but as long as the activity is legal, there is that individual right.

Laws decide what is legal and what not, and its illegal so far LGBT propganda is forbiden by law in schools and universities and in public generally, knowing the harmful consequences if it would be free.

There’s only six states that have the types of laws you’re talking about.

[zeitgeist]

@JayJay

I told you why I mentioned your general location

You do know nothing about my location, but just insist I would be from a certain place accordingly to your fanatasy, in order to make a point with that.
And its discrimination and arrogance at the same time to assume someone who lives in Eastern Europe wouldnt be able to understand and debate that issue, because muh, America is most special place on earth and other people cant understand it.
As I said it, you do whatever you want, but regarding this issue USA isnt a model to follow, but the negative one, its how not to do it. Thank you for experiencing it, exposing the harmful consequences of unlimited LGBT and gender transition expression.