How effective would e-verify actually be?

[WuWei]

@MidwestIndy

It wouldn’t be just the democrats stopping it. The courts would as well.

As would I.

[zantax]

@WuWei

@zantax

@WuWei

@zantax

No, it doesn’t say “renounce my citizenship”, it says renounce all allegiance and fealty, which is what citizenship is.

No, it is not. Citizenship is a legal status. It comes from the state, not from you.

Nope, citizenship is a two way street.

In your heart. Not in the law.

No, in the law as well, if you don’t meet your obligations as a citizen the state will be happy to remind you of those obligations with some prison time.

[WuWei]

@conan

What I do understand we have too many laws…and that laws written conflict with one another.

Fear not…it provided work for crooked attorneys to sort out.

Not in this case. The law is clear, it is right and there is no contradiction.

[WuWei]

@zantax

@WuWei

@zantax

@WuWei

@zantax

No, it doesn’t say “renounce my citizenship”, it says renounce all allegiance and fealty, which is what citizenship is.

No, it is not. Citizenship is a legal status. It comes from the state, not from you.

Nope, citizenship is a two way street.

In your heart. Not in the law.

No, in the law as well, if you don’t meet your obligations as a citizen the state will be happy to remind you of those obligations with some prison time.

But you will still be a citizen.

[MidwestIndy]

Thus why I mentioned the only way to truly end BRC for those born to people not in the country legally is an amendment. But it would seem some people understand such amendment would never pass in today’s political climate and probably not anytime in the next century or two. Clearly it hasn’t in the past century and a half.

[WuWei]

@MidwestIndy

Thus why I mentioned the only way to truly end BRC for those born to people not in the country legally is an amendment. But it would seem some people understand such amendment would never pass in today’s political climate and probably not anytime in the next century or two. Clearly it hasn’t in the past century and a half.

I doubt there will ever be another amendment of substance passed in this country.

[MidwestIndy]

We are in agreement.

Frankly this whole BRC issue is really just political red meat thats dangled out there for the dogs to sniff.

[conan]

It’s this gem that I was pointing out.

@Guilds

Federal law supersedes local and state laws.

[zantax]

@MidwestIndy

Thus why I mentioned the only way to truly end BRC for those born to people not in the country legally is an amendment. But it would seem some people understand such amendment would never pass in today’s political climate and probably not anytime in the next century or two. Clearly it hasn’t in the past century and a half.

I’ll settle for a non-permanent solution. Just like we do with practically every other issue. That a future congress could undo it is no reason not to do it.

[WuWei]

@MidwestIndy

We are in agreement.

Frankly this whole BRC issue is really just political red meat thats dangled out there for the dogs to sniff.

Which once again doesn’t address the problem. If you don’t want to deal with them, keep them out. Once they’re in, they’re in.

[zantax]

@WuWei

@MidwestIndy

We are in agreement.

Frankly this whole BRC issue is really just political red meat thats dangled out there for the dogs to sniff.

Which once again doesn’t address the problem. If you don’t want to deal with them, keep them out. Once they’re in, they’re in.

So if someone breaks into your house, it’s all good if they manage to get in?

[WuWei]

@conan

It’s this gem that I was pointing out.

@Guilds

Federal law supersedes local and state laws.

Alexander ■■■■ Bag Hamilton.

[conan]

It is why I advocating securing our border, enforcing visa when they leave after they expire or when they get picked up.

[WuWei]

@zantax

@WuWei

@MidwestIndy

We are in agreement.

Frankly this whole BRC issue is really just political red meat thats dangled out there for the dogs to sniff.

Which once again doesn’t address the problem. If you don’t want to deal with them, keep them out. Once they’re in, they’re in.

So if someone breaks into your house, it’s all good if they manage to get in?

I have to deal with them.

[Eagle-Keeper]

@WuWei

That didn’t answer my question. Did our government ever forcibly compel anyone here illegally to fight in any of our wars?

I don’t know and your question is irrelevant. The baby was born here, so not here illegally. If you are born here you are a citizen and can be drafted legally if there is a draft. Jus soli has nothing to do with your parents.

I’m not debating birthright citizenship, I’m simply asking whether the US has ever compelled anyone here illegally to serve in any of our past wars in which there was a draft. This is simply a consideration to the extent the US has exercised it’s jurisdiction on those here illegally.

[WuWei]

@conan

It is why I advocating securing our border, enforcing visa when they leave after they expire or when they get picked up.

And you don’t let pregnant women in.

[conan]

He says federal laws superseded state and local laws…but yet makes excuses how sanctuary cities aren’t violating the federal laws.

[zantax]

@WuWei

@zantax

@WuWei

@MidwestIndy

We are in agreement.

Frankly this whole BRC issue is really just political red meat thats dangled out there for the dogs to sniff.

Which once again doesn’t address the problem. If you don’t want to deal with them, keep them out. Once they’re in, they’re in.

So if someone breaks into your house, it’s all good if they manage to get in?

I have to deal with them.

But they remain a criminal and by deal with you mean eject.

[WuWei]

@Eagle-Keeper

@WuWei

That didn’t answer my question. Did our government ever forcibly compel anyone here illegally to fight in any of our wars?

I don’t know and your question is irrelevant. The baby was born here, so not here illegally. If you are born here you are a citizen and can be drafted legally if there is a draft. Jus soli has nothing to do with your parents.

I’m not debating birthright citizenship, I’m simply asking whether the US has ever compelled anyone here illegally to serve in any of our past wars in which there was a draft. This is simply a consideration to the extent the US has exercised it’s jurisdiction on those here illegally.

I don’t know, probably, but it’s not much of a test. Has anybody here illegally ever been arrested?

[conan]

Precisely.