How Does the GOP Move Forward To Success in 2024?

[Supreme_War_Pig]

The press conferences would be epic!

[peek-a-boo]

@Nemesis

Not sure how you can say Trumps support in the GOP is stronger than anyone else. The results of the midterms have weakened Trump politically. I suspect the pilgrimages to MAL to bend the knee are over.

He still has a sizeable loyal following. Those loyal followers would most certainly come out in droves to vote for him in the primary. It would really come down to the level of interest a primary contest would generate for the other candidates. I’m betting non-Trump supporters won’t be nearly as enthusiastic, even though there might be more of them, and that Trump would win by default.

[Paul_Thomson]

@peek-a-boo

I’m not sure how we move forward. Even if Trump were to suddenly turn over a new leaf, much of the GOP base would be thrilled, but his ardent supporters would have none of it.

Trump was the right man to rip the scabs off the corruption that pervades the Democrat-Rino- globalist political elite. No one else had the ego to weather the 24/7 slander at a noncompliant anti-globalist-elite president for four years. He has exposed to the electorate the depth and extensive reach of the international socialist aparatus. But now it is time for a more measured political dismantling of the septic system and with so many MAGA adherents now in the GoP, Trump cannot afford to go about attacking his political allies for mere gamesmanship. The base now want the strong unyielding and effective unifying approach of people like Ron De Santis. Trump needs to run a primary campaign that is polite and respectful to MAGA allies and may the most persuasive candidate win. He can still poke the borax at RINOs to his hearts content. But he needs to be collegial with other MAGA policy affirming candidates or he will be passed over for a more respectful and unifying banner-bearer. He was the crest of a political wave that is no longer dependent on him being at tbe top.

[biggestal99]

@Ben_Natuf

ranked choice is a scam. it should be abolished.

there’s only about 10% surplus votes anyway. unless she gets around 65% of them she’ll remian in 2nd place.

neveda now has ranked choice thanks to a ballot question.

i do however favor a runoff system between the top two candidates who didnt reach the 50% threshold ala Georgia.

Allan

[WuWei]

@peek-a-boo

I believe this is where he might be able to put himself in a position to win the general election.

[peek-a-boo]

@WuWei

I thought it was funny as well. I’m just throwing things out there for discussion.

[SixFoot]

@DougBH

I don’t think he will be nominated for 2024. Since 2016 he has only brought political failure. That should now be obvious. People aren’t going to vote for his nomination just because he and a few followers might threaten to blow up the room. The room will blow up with him, regardless.

Political failure?

[Nemesis]

@peek-a-boo

@Nemesis

Not sure how you can say Trumps support in the GOP is stronger than anyone else. The results of the midterms have weakened Trump politically. I suspect the pilgrimages to MAL to bend the knee are over.

He still has a sizeable loyal following. Those loyal followers would most certainly come out in droves to vote for him in the primary. It would really come down to the level of interest a primary contest would generate for the other candidates. I’m betting non-Trump supporters won’t be nearly as enthusiastic, even though there might be more of them, and that Trump would win by default.

Dont you think non Trump supporters would be emboldened to get out and vote in the primaries?

[Nemesis]

@Orygun

@Supreme_War_Pig

So, who has the perfect mix of ambition, shamelessness, and cuckitude to take that job?

Marge!

Marjorie Taylor Greene Says She and Trump Are Exploring a 2024 Presidential Ticket (Report)

Would be a gift to the dems.

[gooddad409]

@peek-a-boo

@tnt

Yeah.

The system is ind of rigged for a cult of personality that can carry a bunch of states early.

I believe he still has strong support in the GOP. Not necessarily enough to win a general, but enough to potentially win the primary. IMHO

Unless the voting and counting systems are cleaned up in the controversial states nobody we (GOP) nominate will win the General in 2024.

Simple as that IMO.

We need to go back to precovid voting systems.

In fact we need to go back to paper ballots and photo ID.

Oddly enough we used to get it right with those systems and get results the same day normally as well.

Voters had confidence in the systems in those days. A great many do not these days.

[Publius]

We didn’t have idiots on social media trumpeting unfounded claims of voter fraud back in “those days”. And the “results” the same day were often based on exit polls (no longer used much due to unreliability), not actual poll numbers.

And how do you know they “got it right” then?

[peek-a-boo]

@Nemesis

Dont you think non Trump supporters would be emboldened to get out and vote in the primaries?

Historically, not so much. You also have to remember that the non-Trump vote will be divided among more candidates in the early primaries.

[peek-a-boo]

@Nemesis

Would be a gift to the dems.

Yep! She’s not the unifying candidate I had in mind when I floated the question.

[peek-a-boo]

@gooddad409

Unless the voting and counting systems are cleaned up in the controversial states nobody we (GOP) nominate will win the General in 2024.

Simple as that IMO.

We need to go back to precovid voting systems.

In fact we need to go back to paper ballots and photo ID.

Oddly enough we used to get it right with those systems and get results the same day normally as well.

Voters had confidence in the systems in those days. A great many do not these days.

I don’t blame the voting systems. I blame the fractured GOP (Trump camp versus the Never Trumpers) and the lack of an electable GOP candidate. With Trump’s baggage today, he would have no chance, even with pre Covid election systems.

[DougBH]

@Publius

We didn’t have idiots on social media trumpeting unfounded claims of voter fraud back in “those days”. And the “results” the same day were often based on exit polls (no longer used much due to unreliability), not actual poll numbers.

And how do you know they “got it right” then?

Making unsupported claims of stollen elections is a notable failure in this election and should, but wont, put an end to such claims.
That doesn’t mean that more secure voting systems shouldn’t be a goal and are critical to securing trust in the voting system. They should be.

[Orygun]

@gooddad409

Unless the voting and counting systems are cleaned up in the controversial states nobody we (GOP) nominate will win the General in 2024.

The GOP has won the popular vote for president once in the last 30 years. You all rely on squeakers in swing states to win electorally. Maybe its not the voting but what you’re presenting to voters?

[WuWei]

[Supreme_War_Pig]

@Orygun

@gooddad409

Unless the voting and counting systems are cleaned up in the controversial states nobody we (GOP) nominate will win the General in 2024.

The GOP has won the popular vote for president once in the last 30 years. You all rely on squeakers in swing states to win electorally. Maybe its not the voting but what you’re presenting to voters?

Good point.

[DougBH]

What will be the popular cumulative vote for the House this year? The AP now has 217R and 205D. NBC now projects 220R and 215D.
That might hint at the effect of gerrymandering. Though not determinative as some states may be more lopsided than other states.

[Supreme_War_Pig]

@DougBH

What will be the popular cumulative vote for the House this year? The AP now has 217R and 205D. NBC now projects 220R and 215D.
That might hint at the effect of gerrymandering. Though not determinative as some states may be more lopsided than other states.

Somebody way more plugged in than me would need to extrapolate that comparison. Although I would note that gerrymandering would play the same role as the EC by absorbing over-votes.