How do you have an impeachment trial without a judge?

WuWei · 2021-01-26T13:15:57.902Z

Camp:

It is also a big mess now.

Trump fiction will make him more popular than if you let him tweet nonsense for a couple years.

Trump is becoming the swamp slayer, yet he caved to the swamp after the virus arrived as President.

Yes, it is a big mess.

altair1013 · 2021-01-26T14:01:04.747Z

FloridaYankee:

Apparently, according to most cons here, the president is above the law if he waits until his last few days or weeks in office to commit impeachable offenses.

Apparently, according to most ,libs here, the president got his due process as the constitution requires in the House. He was not allowed any time to prepare to prepare a defense. His rights were violated. Bigly.

SixFoot · 2021-01-26T14:05:35.094Z

Axxowiz:

This is about not having Trump being able to run again

That’s exactly why these hyenas are still obsessed with Trump. Biden is making him look better than ever.

DougBH · 2021-01-26T14:06:06.886Z

They didn’t say anything about a “fair” trial. Roberts is only required if a President is put on trial. In this case, a civilian non-office holder is being put on trial.
This is the same political show as was put on once before, and will have the same results…with the added result that it will convert Trump into a victim for many.

Camp · 2021-01-26T14:08:11.176Z

Presided over by a Senator that leaked classified information.

Glass houses.

Snow96 · 2021-01-26T14:08:15.200Z

Where does the constitution say this . . . Politics

Past performance isn’t indicitive of future results. See 2016 election with Hillary.

Just sayin

Snow96 · 2021-01-26T14:09:04.007Z

DougBH:

They didn’t say anything about a “fair” trial. Roberts is only required if a President is put on trial. In this case, a civilian non-office holder is being put on trial.
This is the same political show as was put on once before, and will have the same results…with the added result that it will convert Trump into a victim for many.

Wait . . .

The indictment is for a person holding the office of priesident.

How you can you now have a trial of a civilian. Don’t you need a new inedictment?

WuWei · 2021-01-26T14:10:28.344Z

Under what authority does the Senate “try” an ordinary citizen?

Snow96 · 2021-01-26T14:10:54.531Z

PurpnGold:

It’s not a court

Your right . . . BUT they MUST follow the constitution:

When the President of the United States is tried, the Chief Justice shall preside:

Constitution is clear. They are holding an impeachment trial on the president. The Chief Justice SHALL preside. He doesn’t have a choice, neither does the senate in who presides.

Snow96 · 2021-01-26T14:13:04.048Z

PurpnGold:

It’s not a court

No it’s not.

So you have to follow the rules set by the constitution:

When the President of the United States is tried, the Chief Justice shall preside:

WuWei · 2021-01-26T14:13:52.404Z

PurpnGold:

It’s not a court

What is it?

Snow96 · 2021-01-26T14:15:39.701Z

BlueHeron:

But trump isn’t the President of the United States.

Then how can they hold an impeachment trail if he’s not president?

The impeachment (indictment) delivered to the senate is impeachment of the president.

If Trump is no longer president, then you can’t use the indictment of president correct? So do they need to do a new impeachment in the house?

Snow96 · 2021-01-26T14:17:07.607Z

DisturbedGuy:

No it’s not. Setting the precedent that Trump’s behavior leading up to the 6th are unbecoming the office of the presidency. Our elections are going to continue to be close. We need to draw this line for both parties.

Then follow the constition:

When the President of the United States is tried, the Chief Justice shall preside:

The Chief Justice SHALL no may, not might

WuWei · 2021-01-26T14:21:59.007Z

BlueHeron:

But trump isn’t the President of the United States.

Then how can they impeach him?

Snow96 · 2021-01-26T14:22:53.343Z

Konssurvative1:

Read some law dude.

How about the cheif justice and the senate read this:

When the President of the United States is tried, the Chief Justice shall preside:

Snow96 · 2021-01-26T14:25:22.379Z

Konssurvative1:

The Chief Justice states he is not constitutionally obligated to preside over this impeachment as he is no longer president.

He seems to have a better handle on the constitution than you do.

When the President of the United States is tried, the Chief Justice shall preside:

If they are holding an impeachment trial on the president then the chief justice is there. I don’t see anything about former, out of office, or anything. He was indicted as the president, he is being tried as the president.
Either that or the impeachment indictument is no longer valid.

Snow96 · 2021-01-26T14:29:26.581Z

FloridaYankee:

Apparently, according to most cons here, the president is above the law if he waits until his last few days or weeks in office to commit impeachable offenses.

Nope.

They can hold a trial (word from the constituion) but the Cheif Justice SHALL (word for the constition) preside.

Not sure what happens constitutionally if the cheif justice doesn’t want to preside. Guess you impeach him and install a new chief justice.

WuWei · 2021-01-26T14:32:49.243Z

Chief. “i” before “e” except after “c” and neighbor and weigh.

Snow96 · 2021-01-26T14:35:59.542Z

DougBH:

They didn’t say anything about a “fair” trial. Roberts is only required if a President is put on trial. In this case, a civilian non-office holder is being put on trial.

Can you please link to the CIVILIAN impeach ment article passed by the house. Please and thank you.

DougBH:

This is the same political show as was put on once before, and will have the same results…with the added result that it will convert Trump into a victim for many.

The impeachment article passed by the house was for a person holding the office of PRESIDENT.
The senate trial is for a person that was impeached in the office of PRESIDENT.

WorldWatcher · 2021-01-26T14:40:06.968Z

WuWei:

Under what authority does the Senate “try” an ordinary citizen?

They aren’t trying an ordinary citizen. President Donald J. Trump** was the sitting President at the time he was impeached and was not, and is not, an “ordinary citizen”.

Whether Senate, after having a trial, will convict (conviction vote with 2/3’s confirming), acquit (conviction vote with less than the 2/3’s threshold), or dismiss (vote after arguments by a simple majority) is up to the Senate.
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