“How can you not hate white people?”

[FloridaYankee]

People I meet at work, occasionally a small business person or employee, one coworker in particular, occaisonally a client I’m doing work for. What, you think I’m making this ■■■■ up? C’mon down to south Florida and accompany me out to small towns in cattle and farm country, you’ll hear the same ■■■■■

[gooddad409]

@FloridaYankee

@thinkingman

@FloridaYankee

@thinkingman

@FloridaYankee

@TheDoctorIsIn

I don’t think “institutional” racism is the right term for it.

It’s less about institutions and more about people.

Systemic.

where?

who or what engages in “institutional racism?”

I would not define today’s racial problems as either, significant as they are.

ok fine but how/where are they significant?

Where are racial problems significant? LOL. All over the place. I hear disparaging racist comments regularly.

I don’t. We get along great in these parts.

[FloridaYankee]

@gooddad409

I don’t. We get along great in these parts.

So do most people here really. But…I have many times seen these same people interact with people of color and you would never guess they would say the things they say when they think they are in like company. Outright racist jokes, little digs and backhanded comments, jokes that walk a razor’s edge. Regularly, once a week probably average, and more when I am out I the country. That’s a lot of people.

[thinkingman]

@FloridaYankee

People I meet at work, occasionally a small business person or employee, one coworker in particular, occaisonally a client I’m doing work for. What, you think I’m making this ■■■■ up? C’mon down to south Florida and accompany me out to small towns in cattle and farm country, you’ll hear the same ■■■■■

oh i am sure there are racist yahoos and ■■■■■■■■ around but this is not codified into law or policy like the democrats did in jim crow etc

no institutionalized. these people do not hold back anyone of color because of color

if they try they will quickly be caught

[FloridaYankee]

@gooddad409

I don’t. We get along great in these parts.

What parts is that just out of curiosity?

[FloridaYankee]

@thinkingman

oh i am sure there are racist yahoos and ■■■■■■■■ but this is not codified into law or policy like the democrats did in jim crow etc

no institutionalized. these people do not hold back anyone of color because of color

if they try they will quickly be caught

That’s pretty much what I said when I said I would not call what we have today systemic or institutionalized. It’s still a big factor. Inequity in jail sentencing is a good example. Probably not systemic, but significant enough to generate statistics that prove it’s reality.

[thinkingman]

@FloridaYankee

@thinkingman

oh i am sure there are racist yahoos and ■■■■■■■■ but this is not codified into law or policy like the democrats did in jim crow etc

no institutionalized. these people do not hold back anyone of color because of color

if they try they will quickly be caught

That’s pretty much what I said when I said I would not call what we have today systemic or institutionalized. It’s still a big factor. Inequity in jail sentencing is a good example. Probably not systemic, but significant enough to generate statistics that prove it’s reality.

ok but inequity in sentencing is not a problem due to racism. it is a problem in the black community

[PurpnGold]

@WuWei

I don’t know, I’m not black. What does institutional racism mean?

Oppression built into institutions that specifically target a race.

From Slavery to Mass incarceration… and everything in between. All institutional.

[FloridaYankee]

@thinkingman

ok but inequity in sentencing is not a problem due to racism. it is a problem in the black community

White judges sentencing blacks more harshly than they do whites in identical circumstances is not a black community problem.

[thinkingman]

@PurpnGold

@WuWei

I don’t know, I’m not black. What does institutional racism mean?

Oppression built into institutions that specifically target a race.

From Slavery to Mass incarceration… and everything in between. All institutional.

examples nowadays?

[PurpnGold]

@thinkingman

ok but inequity in sentencing is not a problem due to racism. it is a problem in the black community

Yes it is racism. It specifically targets a race.

Black people are still getting longer jail sentences for the same crimes committed by white people.

[PurpnGold]

@thinkingman

examples nowadays?

The justice system

[FloridaYankee]

Black Men's Sentences 20 Percent Longer Than White Men's For Similar Crimes

[Jamerican]

Truth?
Piss off

[WuWei]

@TheDoctorIsIn

@WuWei

Can “Institutional racism!” by definition be illegal?

That would depend on your definition of “institutional racism”.

But probably not.

Why does it depend on my definition? What’s yours?

[TheDoctorIsIn]

Because you’re the one asking the question.

How can I answer if I don’t know what you’re asking?

[WuWei]

@FloridaYankee

Institutional limits it to government and official actions only, it was much more than that. Systemic.

Does it? Or does it include any institution?

What system was racist?

[WuWei]

@CanadianJudo

black males are sentence to 2x the amount of prison time then white male for the same offense,

No they aren’t.

[WuWei]

@PurpnGold

@WuWei

I don’t know, I’m not black. What does institutional racism mean?

Oppression built into institutions that specifically target a race.

From Slavery to Mass incarceration… and everything in between. All institutional.

Ok, don’t know if I agree, but we can roll with it.

Where does that exist today?

[WuWei]

@FloridaYankee

@thinkingman

ok but inequity in sentencing is not a problem due to racism. it is a problem in the black community

White judges sentencing blacks more harshly than they do whites in identical circumstances is not a black community problem.

Circumstances are never identical.