Higher Education in America – too expensive, takes too much time, has a limited “shelf-life", and consists of a great deal of content that has limited practical value

Biggest crime ever done to the people of this country was eggheads saying that jobs like plumbers, electricians, mechanics, and carpenters were for unintelligent people and beneath the modern person. It was a crime that the people who pushed it should have been guillotined for. Those are all good jobs that require intelligence and good hands to do. But people lied and said that’s for people without degrees.

Now those are the only guys with any job security and make good money.

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For real. You’ve got to get on the barricades at the very least if you want anyone to listen to you.

No one would have taken Marx seriously without Engels. Because Engels got on the barricades in Germany in 1848. Marx ran off to Paris because he didn’t do the whole “physical” part of the revolution bit. He was criticized for it and after that he really depended on Engels’ reputation as a fire spitting revolutionary willing to fight cops and soldiers in order to be taken seriously.

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Frankly I’ve been looking at going to a trade school for HVAC. It’s a one year course, it’s hands on, and I would never not have a job in the field because with global warming the demand for air conditioning repair will only increase over time especially with how unreliable modern units are. My great uncle did it for 50 years and he was always decently off from the money.

Basically take the course, I get a job as an apprentice for a master’s company, do that for a few years and then start my own HVAC business. I’m seriously considering it.

I started looking into it after I had some AC work done at my place six months ago. I paid that guy 200 dollars to literally check voltage and current, determine there was blown fuse in the unit, and replace it in 45 seconds. I was like “damn if even 20% of the jobs are like that and you make 200 bucks off of it that sounds awesome.” And then the big jobs like unit installs at new houses and businesses pay thousands of dollars at one time for not an abhorrent amount of work and it doesn’t look physically backbreaking. It seems like a really sweet gig.

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Outside of dealing with waste, plumbing is definitely a sweet gig. It’s in super high demand, there’s not a whole ton of plumbing masters so the competition isn’t out of control, and even quick and easy jobs pay crazy money.

Basically that’s why I’m looking at HVAC because it has many of the same advantages of plumbing but you don’t have to deal with ■■■■■ At worst you deal with mold.

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Apparently, more young people are catching on.

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That’s why we do interviews.

What? Psychiatry is not medicine. Name one intersection.

His argument is quite silly as Medical School doesn’t even require any specific major to apply. That very fact further supports the OP as both Medical School and Law School for that matter don’t require any specific field of study for acceptance. So four years of arbitrary study and four years of ones life delayed from getting into their desired profession to meet this pointless requirement.

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Like I said … four years to party hearty before you have to knuckle down and get serious about school. :wink:

I’ll repeat:

I’m sorry to hear that. He could have had a really good time partying and getting laid during those four years that it took to get his Bachelor Degree in Phylosphy. :wink:

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I was never a partier…and have wanted to be a doctor. I’m not sure how this will be possible at this point but I’ve got a little extra work to do for GPA remediation. And I have yet to take Biochem (I have to retake OChem II and possibly OChem I) and then take the MCAT.

I went to the worst party school in America.

Indeed. Junior colleges are great for teaching practical skills and for saving money.

This is a discussion forum. If you didn’t want anyone to comment on it, you should not have posted it.

Have you thought about any of the other health careers? I could see you as a doctor, but with your science background, also things like radiology techs, medical lab tech, occupational therapy?

Many young people around here with your type of background go on to work in medical aligned lab jobs. We have a ton around here, things like Millipore Sigma, Fisher Scientific, Promega and many others. Good pay, good future.

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Yup. Haven’t worked a day and think they’ve “earned” it. It doesn’t matter where you go, unless you’re just an absolute genius who outperforms everyone in your field out of the box, you start out as a grunt.

A college degree increases your potential earning. Potential is subjective.

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OTJ training is fine for those who already possess an acumen for the trade. I know I like to take the best practices from several different skilled people and add my own talents for maximum efficiency without sacrificing quality. And then, if they’re interested, show the aforementioned skilled people who trained me my methods. Sometimes they take it and run with it, sometimes they show me why they don’t do it that way. Short version, we all learn a little through the experience.

The only “backbreaking” part of the job is dragging air handlers into crawl spaces or into attics on split units. The money is in getting contracts for multi dwelling unit builders or sub divided lot builders. Pay a crew of laborers to run ductwork, and install the units yourself. You could do both, but running the ductwork is pretty labor intensive and can be subbed out for a better return.

One of the first jobs I had was working for a building contractor installing ventilation conduits and insulation in very small attic spaces when I was 14 or 15. It was part of the encouragement I had to get a degree in engineering. :wink:

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