I don’t mind paying my taxes. That’s the cost of living in the greatest country.

I don’t. I define socialism in America by this pic.

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Guess that depends on how much you pay.

Ok. I define it by this pic…

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I pay a lot, doesn’t bother me.

Mine’s real.

Seriously?

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That one’s real. What does it have to do with socialism?

I try not to take things said in these forums personally. But man, being told that me and my people can’t do something, that it’s a white person thing. That’s insulting.

Let alone the fact that this position would seem to create an apprehension of Hispanic and Black people in government. Gotta be careful, or they will turn us into Venezuela.

“White Americans can”. Man what a sinking feeling that leaves. Hispanic Americans are not equal to White Americans.

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So picayune on the pic. Regardless, the space program was created and run under a “socialist” America.

After FDR we had a lot of programs that would be considered socialist by your ilk. Oddly, we aren’t Venezuela 80 years later but that won’t stop the screaming that Venezuela is right around the corner. Any day now! :sweat_smile:

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When one subscribes to an absolutist position, as we see here on this thread in their fear of socialism, it looks pretty foolish in light of the fact that we already have plenty of “socialist” programs yet we aren’t Venezuela.

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I was definitely wrong. Yep, that’s my position.

I have zero apprehension of Latinos or black people in government.

Go down to Colombia and see what the Venezualan refugees are doing to it.

You can’t name one LA country in which socialism is working. Not one.

And yet you want to call me a racist for pointing out that fact?

You take it, assume it, as a negative. It’s not. You jerked.

It doesn’t work in LA countries because socialism is bad. It’s bull ■■■■■ Not because Latinos are bad.

I lived there a lot longer than you did or will. Your race card won’t work on me.

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I don’t fear anything.

Yep, a lot of socialist programs. And this:

Is from the state with the most.

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Not by socialism.

No? Are you sure?

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And yet you were the one who brought race into it.

You have always couched your arguments around culture. I have generally agreed with them, different culture, morals, attitude, producing different results.

There was no argument regarding culture here.

“Socialism is a white system”
“White Americans can”
“All Americans don’t look like you”

These are arguments on skin color.

How am I not to understand that argument other than being race based?

Yep. I’m a racist.

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Edit: not really😉

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Are they?

What’s the difference?

“Socialism is a white system”
“White Americans can”
“All Americans don’t look like you”

“Socialism is a Caucasian system”
“Caucasians can”
“All Americans aren’t Caucasians”

Did I say “brown”? Socialism is a garbage dream dreamt up by Germans, except they stopped being Germans. They convinced Russians, who proceeded to slaughter millions. They were pissed it didn’t work in England. So they got with a couple of Italians and changed it. Then came a Brazilian, a Mexican and a whole bunch of white women. So it isn’t race.

And it hasn’t worked anywhere. Now useful idiots claim it works in Norway. Norway has a population of 5 million people who all look and think alike.

Venezuela has a population of 28 million people. Some Indians, some black, some fair basically Spaniards.

Which one more closely matches the US.

Over half the US was settled by Spanish culture. Was Norway?

Name one place where Nordic socialism is in effect in LA. Just one. It’s not Costa Rica.

Name one place in Africa where Nordic socialism is in effect. Just one.

If it was going to work in LA, Venezuela was the place. Why didn’t it?

It is cultural. It won’t work for those two cultures. It won’t work for American west culture. It won’t work in Deep South culture.

It will probably work in New Hampshire, Maine, Connecticut. Because they all look and think alike. It is a white system designed by and for whites. That White culture.

There is a difference between cold climate and hot climate cultures.

There is a difference between Latinos and Nordic whites.

Not being “able to socialism” is not a failure, it’s a blessing.

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I don’t care if you do. You can’t shame me. Nobody can.

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Tell me why you think you can make it work here. Why do you believe you will get Norway, not Venezuela?