Head on a Pike Takeaway Moment

westaussie · 2020-01-28T16:01:11.744Z

One of our statements is demonstrably true. The other is not.

Oryx · 2020-01-28T16:38:39.792Z

Samm:

No, it’s called blinded by your bias.

You’re seriously arguing that Fox News is not pro-Trump in general? Sorry, but that’s just absurd.

Oryx · 2020-01-28T16:41:07.252Z

gooddad409:

I certainly have a better track record. No reason to think you will be right this time either.

No one knows how the election will turn out, that’s all I’m saying. If I had money to burn I would wager it on Trump’s reelection, but I could very well lose that bet.

Oryx · 2020-01-28T16:42:54.518Z

Samm:

vindicated and reelected

Reelected, maybe. Vindicated, no.

The outcome of the Senate trial will have no effect on what people thought about Trump from before this spectacle began. Those who hate him will still hate him and those who don’t will shrug and go “meh, silly Democrats.”

I agree with that. The only question that remains is how many people will fall into each camp in November.

gooddad409 · 2020-01-28T17:15:47.951Z

Oryx:

Samm:

No, it’s called blinded by your bias.

You’re seriously arguing that Fox News is not pro-Trump in general? Sorry, but that’s just absurd.

It’s about 50-50. Much different from the 97 percent anti Trump lame stream media.

gooddad409 · 2020-01-28T17:17:44.107Z

westaussie:

One of our statements is demonstrably true. The other is not.

Vindication and reelection are coming. Get used to it. Or not. I really don’t care.

Oryx · 2020-01-28T17:23:52.244Z

gooddad409:

It’s about 50-50.

Nonsense.

WuWei · 2020-01-28T21:38:13.253Z

PurpnGold:

gooddad409:

Soon to be vindicated and reelected. No ifs, buts, or maybes.

He won’t be vindicated because his defense team is going with the “Biden did it too” defense. They are essentially arguing that since Biden did it… it is ok for Trump to do it. That’s not vindication that 2 people doing impeachable acts.

He will be vindicated. By the people.

WuWei · 2020-01-28T21:38:44.600Z

Oryx:

gooddad409:

It’s about 50-50.

Nonsense.

51-49

Samm · 2020-01-28T21:39:11.702Z

westaussie:

Trump does not want witnesses at the Senate trial. Why doesn’t Trump want witnesses that would ostensibly vindicate his actions to give evidence?

Careful what you ask for … it’s a trap.

Samm · 2020-01-28T21:40:19.483Z

westaussie:

Donald Trump was impeached as per the USA constitution. No ifs, buts or maybes.

On trumped up charges. Just like Andrew Johnson.

You seem to think impeachment is an indelible stain. Does Bill Clinton look stained to you? And there was absolutely no doubt about his perjury. He was guilty as sin and everyone knew it.

Samm · 2020-01-28T21:51:26.195Z

PurpnGold:

gooddad409:

Soon to be vindicated and reelected. No ifs, buts, or maybes.

He won’t be vindicated because his defense team is going with the “Biden did it too” defense. They are essentially arguing that since Biden did it… it is ok for Trump to do it. That’s not vindication that 2 people doing impeachable acts.

If it is an impeachable act, why wasn’t Biden impeached?

Samm · 2020-01-28T21:53:02.450Z

Oryx:

Samm:

No, it’s called blinded by your bias.

You’re seriously arguing that Fox News is not pro-Trump in general? Sorry, but that’s just absurd.

You have offered no evidence to support your assertion other than your bias.

Once again, not being anti-Trump is not the same thing as being pro-Trump.

PurpnGold · 2020-01-28T21:53:33.393Z

Samm:

If it is an impeachable act, why wasn’t Biden impeached?

The Republicans didn’t care during Obama years? They also didn’t care during the first 2 years of Trumps term?

Samm · 2020-01-28T21:55:00.588Z

PurpnGold:

Samm:

If it is an impeachable act, why wasn’t Biden impeached?

The Republicans didn’t care during Obama years? They also didn’t care during the first 2 years of Trumps term?

Those are questions, not an answer.

But if you want them answered … Republicans didn’t see Biden’s act as an impeachable offense just like they don’t see what Trump did as rising to that level. And to your second question, someone who is not in office cannot be impeached.

Oryx · 2020-01-28T22:55:40.556Z

Samm:

You have offered no evidence to support your assertion other than your bias.

Do you not acknowledge that the hosts of all the prime-time opinion shows on Fox News are pro-Trump?

WuWei · 2020-01-28T23:11:56.905Z

Samm:

Does Bill Clinton look stained to you?

Come on man!

WuWei · 2020-01-28T23:13:09.166Z

PurpnGold:

Samm:

If it is an impeachable act, why wasn’t Biden impeached?

The Republicans didn’t care during Obama years? They also didn’t care during the first 2 years of Trumps term?

Neither did the dems, what changed?

gooddad409 · 2020-01-28T23:38:18.676Z

Oryx:

gooddad409:

It’s about 50-50.

Nonsense.

You obviously do not know much about Fox.

DougBH · 2020-01-28T23:40:55.606Z

Samm:

westaussie:

Donald Trump was impeached as per the USA constitution. No ifs, buts or maybes.

On trumped up charges. Just like Andrew Johnson.

You seem to think impeachment is an indelible stain. Does Bill Clinton look stained to you? And there was absolutely no doubt about his perjury. He was guilty as sin and everyone knew it.

Who can hear the name “Andrew Johnson” without spitting? It was horrible the way he fired that guy that he was told not to fire. Horrible.