This thread is simultaneously making me laugh my ass off and shake my head.

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Animals don’t love.
Cows cry for their calves because their bodies tell them to. If they lose a calf they will go to the dead calf and bawl but it is not our of love it is out of need. Their bags are full and it hurts. The calf is what used to relief this pain.
At weaning time cows cry for their calves for a short period of time because their bags are full. Give them a few weeks turn them back in together and if the calf tries to suckle the cow will kick the crap out of him or her. They don’t even know each other any more. A stud does not mate because of love. He mates because instinct tells him too.
Animals are what they are. They do what they do to survive not because of love.

So do gays and lesbians.

Father forgive me for I have pestered…

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No surprise there.

:+1:

:heart:

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Human Homosexuals have reproduced for thousands upon thousands of years.

If one thinks that homosexuality is self limiting genetically, then the best way to root it out of the human species is to accept it and let the gays live the lives that they want.

But the thing is… biology is a lot more complicated than all of that and sexuality, like gender is a spectrum so the stodgy old tales of how it should be will fail.

Just treat fellow human beings with the dignity that you wish to be treated and all will be fine.

It’s really not that hard.

Bonobos, who are some of our closest primate cousins have all sorts of freaky sex that isn’t about reproduction.

So there is that.

What the ■■■■ does that even mean?

No, in order for a lesbian to reproduce without modern science is to have sex with a man.

That would by defnition be a bisexual woman.

Attraction is one thing, acting is another living it is something else.

Seriously What is at all difficult about that to understand?

Natural breeding would be “natural”, you know, sex between a male and female producing a baby.

Hey.

Guess what.

Human homosexuals have been in heterosexual relationships for like forever now.

They weren’t happy about it… but they did it.

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So what is “unnatural”?

We aren’t doing anything supernatural. Are we?

Wow, really?

Tell us something else everyone has known for centuries.

The point is that if the idea is that natural selection can’t explain the “they” then what is the problem with just letting them be?

They are happier humans for it. You don’t have to worry about unhappy heterosexual marriages because of it. And people get to live their lives as they wish.

You know.

The American Dream.

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Where have I suggested anything other than, “letting them be”?

Have I suggested execution? How about isolation? Quarantine? Sterilization maybe?

Unnatural would be breeding through AI or invitro fertilization and implantation, fertility treatments etc.

Every ■■■■■■■ thing that we do as humans is “natural” since we exist in nature.

Might as well argue that vaccines are unnatural or airplanes are unnatural.

It is super stupid.

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The words “crime against nature”

That is seriously ■■■■■■ up.

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Well now you’re just being ridiculous.

Something that is man made is not “natural”.

Why isn’t there a push to prohibit all divorces? Why isn’t there a push to gaol those found guilty of committing adultery?