Have over 30,000 Americans died from complications related to COVID vaccinations?

[FreeAndClear]

A rare sentiment around these parts.

[hindsight]

@Bosun

No I look at both sides and then arrive a a conclusion

Is that what you call it?

[FloridaYankee]

@Ben_Natuf

whether she did or not i don’t care about. how many people had to die because of the deliberate efforts of democrats to undermine any vaccine that could have been released 4-6 weeks earlier? the only reason the fda extended the period was to boost confidence. she and other democrats playing the politics of fear like a fiddle are directly responsible for that

And STILL a third of the country won’t even take the vaccine because crackpots purposely undermine confidence in it with lies and misinformation.

[TommyLucchese]

No.

Moving on.

[Ben_Natuf]

there’s a hell of a lot of black people who won’t take it because of history. which crackpots are responsible for that?

[FloridaYankee]

@Ben_Natuf

there’s a hell of a lot of black people who won’t take it because of history. which crackpots are responsible for that?

A separate issue altogether and exacerbated by the lies and misinformation from the crackpots.

[FloridaYankee]

@Jezcoe

@Ben_Natuf

and you know full well that health care workers were right there in line with them. they were both in tier 1a and equally prioritized.

I get that you are trying to point away from the major group of people that got vaccinated and likely makes up the majority of the deaths that have been reported to VEARS.

One doctor reported to VAERS that the flu vaccine turned him into The Incredible Hulk. This is the database that crackpots are using to undermine confidence in the vaccine. I understand that those things will be weeded out going forward, but clearly many people or even most do not.

[Bosun]

What is with “you guys”. I have a personally autographed photo on my wall signed by Bush. I critized him when I did not agree. But, always followed his orders. He and his Dad were both good. They were not Jimah Carter, one of the worst in history.

Dick Chaney was a great public servant, too. His daughter is a little confused, though.

[Bosun]

It is not a separate issue but an illustration of reality.

[Bosun]

The only weed the Hulk had was some bad weed.

[Bosun]

Yes moving in.

[Bosun]

So what if they decide not to, it is their right. Come on man, give them a break.

[Bosun]

Yep that is the way I see it. I am reality and facts based

[Bosun]

I gotta agree with you,

[Bosun]

Sippy Cup Joe is the liberal poster person. Son, Hunter is the new left example.

[Borgia_dude]

@Bill.in.PA

Are excess deaths a better way to look at vaccine safety?

If it could pick up a signal, perhaps. You know VAERS isn’t anything close to excess deaths, right?

[ohknow35]

@JayJay

Fewer eggs than Nature is breaking.

More eggs than are broken using the usual APPROVED recipe.

Don’t be so certain about the “nature” part either. The chicoms are not your friends.

[toreyj01]

@Ben_Natuf

@FreeAndClear

The bad information on the local and federal level in the beginning of the pandemic and even few months into it killed a ton of people.

here’s my take

fauci should be in jail. he’s an epidemiologist and either knew or should have known that respiratory virus’ do have asymptomatic spread. yet, under his advice, we screened out and quarantined only those with symptoms. the claim at the time was that only those with symptoms could spread the virus. not only was that false, but he either knew it, or should have known it.

also, they knew it was a coronavirus on day one. how in gods green earth could an epidemiologist, especially one that followed research on coronavirus’ not know that when china and who claimed it did not have person to person spread it was ■■■■■■■■■ please list for me any coronavirus in history that did not spread person to person.

thats the tip of the iceberg. fauci is dirty.

Technically speaking, a patient who is infected with COVID and has a completely asymptomatic course is not contagious. But a pre-symptomatic patient who is infected but has not yet started experiencing symptoms is very contagious. They look exactly the same at that moment, but in a few days they will look quite different.

[JayJay]

What “approved” recipe?

[ohknow35]

@JayJay

What “approved” recipe?

When a vaccine gets proper FDA approval and doesn’t POSSIBLY kill 30,000 in 6 months.

What were we talking about here??