Hate to bring up another thread on Iowa but dang it’s close now

altair1013 · 2020-02-06T17:17:26.837Z

gooddad409:

It is true actually. They try to force Christians to go against their religious beliefs (ignoring the 1st amendment).

Christian bakers have no problem serving gays for example except as regards ssm wedding cakes.

That violates their Christian beliefs. The gays try to force it anyway.

That’s just wrong.

There are plenty of bakers who will do a gay wedding cake. They should avoid the drama and go to one of them. Then everyone is happy.

gooddad409 · 2020-02-06T17:24:00.471Z

altair1013:

gooddad409:

What they want/demand from Christians now is approval for their lifestyle.

For me, I don’t approve or disapprove. I have no right. It’s not my life. Not my decision. Doesn’t effect me at all.

Well it would effect me as a Christian. For example they want/demand to be in positions of leadership in churches.

The scriptures are quite specific and strict as regards leadership qualifications. Some left wing churches choose to ignore those scriptures (at their own risk i would say) but i choose to adhere to those scriptures.

For example deacons and bishops are supposed to be the husband of one wife, raise his children in obediance to the Lord, etc ,etc. The Apostle Paul listed them in not just one but 2 of the books of the bible he wrote.

gooddad409 · 2020-02-06T17:25:43.388Z

altair1013:

gooddad409:

It is true actually. They try to force Christians to go against their religious beliefs (ignoring the 1st amendment).

Christian bakers have no problem serving gays for example except as regards ssm wedding cakes.

That violates their Christian beliefs. The gays try to force it anyway.

That’s just wrong.

There are plenty of bakers who will do a gay wedding cake. They should avoid the drama and go to one of them. Then everyone is happy.

Well that would be the sensible thing to do. If one is picking a fighting then i guess one would actually look for a christian baker though.

altair1013 · 2020-02-06T17:25:57.020Z

gooddad409:

Well it would effect me as a Christian. For example they want/demand to be in positions of leadership in churches.

They cannot demand that. I have never heard of the government forcing churches to put anyone in a leadership position.

gooddad409 · 2020-02-06T17:27:52.682Z

altair1013:

gooddad409:

Well it would effect me as a Christian. For example they want/demand to be in positions of leadership in churches.

They cannot demand that. I have never heard of the government forcing churches to put anyone in a leadership position.

They don’t use the government to make that particular demand but rather try to get churches to go along with it.

Some more liberal churches are going along with it.

The conservative churches are standing firm.

Forcefield · 2020-02-06T17:31:27.103Z

MoleUK:

Yeah, damn that damn DNC rigging it for…Buttigieg? .

Everything is a conspiracy. EVERYTHING!

Camp · 2020-02-06T17:31:35.182Z

LOL. Sure…Downplaying it.

One of one and controversy abounds. 49 more to go!!

The race to concede to President Trump is going to be fun to observe.

altair1013 · 2020-02-06T17:32:22.278Z

gooddad409:

They don’t use the government to make that particular demand but rather try to get churches to go along with it.

Some more liberal churches are going along with it.

The conservative churches are standing firm.

Which is how it should be. The freedom to chose your leadership. The leadership of conservative churches are certainly not free from sin either.

gooddad409 · 2020-02-06T17:35:18.058Z

altair1013:

gooddad409:

They don’t use the government to make that particular demand but rather try to get churches to go along with it.

Some more liberal churches are going along with it.

The conservative churches are standing firm.

Which is how it should be. The freedom to chose your leadership. The leadership of conservative churches are certainly not free from sin either.

They are not standing in open defiance of the scriptures.

The leftist churches are in this sort of case.

altair1013 · 2020-02-06T17:36:49.301Z

Forcefield:

Yeah, damn that damn DNC rigging it for…Buttigieg? .

Everything is a conspiracy. EVERYTHING!

You’re looking at this all wrong. Buttigieg isn’t going to win. The dems know that he has no chance in the south. They just want someone to stop the Bernie momentum. For that, Pete will do just fine. For the establishment, it’s anybody but Bernie.

altair1013 · 2020-02-06T17:41:41.599Z

gooddad409:

They are not standing in open defiance of the scriptures.

The leftist churches are in this sort of case.

So are Mosques, Synagogues, Hindu and Bhuddist temples and many others. We should concern ourselves with our own church and faith. The world will not change for us. Their faith is none of our business.

gooddad409 · 2020-02-06T17:44:56.556Z

altair1013:

gooddad409:

They are not standing in open defiance of the scriptures.

The leftist churches are in this sort of case.

So are Mosques, Synagogues, Hindu and Bhuddist temples and many others. We should concern ourselves with our own church and faith. The world will not change for us. Their faith is none of our business.

We were given the Great Commission to preach the Gospel to all the world.

Guess we will have to agree to disagree about the none of our business part.

altair1013 · 2020-02-06T17:49:48.288Z

gooddad409:

We were given the Great Commission to preach the Gospel to all the world.

Guess we will have to agree to disagree about the none of our business part.

I have a gay neighbor who keeps his lawn well maintained and watches my house when I’m away. Should I lecture him about why God wired his brain to be gay? What about my other neighbor who is having affairs? Should I lecture him too? Which one it the biggest offense? The one listed in the ten commandments? Or the one that isn’t?

sikofit · 2020-02-06T17:54:44.195Z

gooddad409:

It is true actually.

No it really isn’t. No matter how many times you repeat it. Gays do not care about Christians approving their lifestyle.

sikofit · 2020-02-06T17:57:21.299Z

gooddad409:

We were given the Great Commission to preach the Gospel to all the world.

Guess we will have to agree to disagree about the none of our business part.

And those Christians have shown to be enormous hypocrites in excusing/ignoringTrump’s sins

JayJay · 2020-02-06T18:06:46.692Z

Yep disinformation is going to work well this campaign.

Buttigieg paid them for some text messaging apps.

The screenshots of Buttigieg’s payments on the FEC’s site were of course filtered to show only Buttigieg’s payments.

Gillibrand and Biden also used them.

They in on it too?

gooddad409 · 2020-02-06T18:10:12.990Z

sikofit:

gooddad409:

It is true actually.

No it really isn’t. No matter how many times you repeat it. Gays do not care about Christians approving their lifestyle.

Actions speak louder than words.

gooddad409 · 2020-02-06T18:14:12.114Z

sikofit:

gooddad409:

We were given the Great Commission to preach the Gospel to all the world.

Guess we will have to agree to disagree about the none of our business part.

And those Christians have shown to be enormous hypocrites in excusing/ignoringTrump’s sins

A false accusation. Nobody is excusing him.

On the other hand the man is governing as a pro life President and appointing folks i think are pro life pro constitution people to the benches around the country.

Many lives may be saved before this is over!

Contrast that with Hillary who would do just the opposite and is crooked in just about every other aspect of her life.

sikofit · 2020-02-06T18:14:41.787Z

gooddad409:

sikofit:

gooddad409:

It is true actually.

No it really isn’t. No matter how many times you repeat it. Gays do not care about Christians approving their lifestyle.

Actions speak louder than words.

Yep and the actions of the gay community show that it does not care about the approval of bigots. They only want equal application of the law

gooddad409 · 2020-02-06T18:15:03.830Z

altair1013:

gooddad409:

We were given the Great Commission to preach the Gospel to all the world.

Guess we will have to agree to disagree about the none of our business part.

I have a gay neighbor who keeps his lawn well maintained and watches my house when I’m away. Should I lecture him about why God wired his brain to be gay? What about my other neighbor who is having affairs? Should I lecture him too? Which one it the biggest offense? The one listed in the ten commandments? Or the one that isn’t?

The 2 or 3 wrongs equal a right fails every time.