Has Tucker Carlson ever read our Constitution? Maybe not!


#102

Wrong

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#103

It’s pretty sad that he should have to specify “free and fair” elections when you know damn well that is what he meant. Soviets etc. may have voted, but they didn’t truly elect ANYBODY.

Nobody wants a pure democracy, nobody, yet that is the example people always use when arguing that we are not a democracy and that democracy is dangerous, it’s ridiculous and dishonest. It doesn’t change the fact however that rule by the people, no matter how it is set up is a form of democracy, a representative republic being one of them.

This is a brilliant campaign to make the word “democrat” a bad word for purely partisan political reasons and whoever started it struck political gold.


#104

Boy. This really isn’t something you’re good at, is it?


#105

Don’t hurt your head trying to think. You were right before trying to think. We don’t vote for legislation as is done in a “democracy”, and this is one of the critical differences between our representative republic as distinguished from a “democracy” in which 51 percent of the people can vote to confiscate the remaining 49 percent of the population’s property.

JWK

The unavoidable truth is, the Bernie Sanders, Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez’, Andrew Gillum and Ayanna Pressley’s socialist plan for “free” college tuition will be paid for by taxing millions of college graduates who worked for and paid their own way through college and are now trying to finance their own economic needs.


#106

We are a democratic republic no matter how much you don’t want us to be.


#107

No, that is not clear that is what he meant. Mob always talks in a cryptic manner. If he can’t or won’t articulate what he means, he deserves the answers he gets.


#108

So, you finally agree we are not a “democracy” as Tucker Carlson continues to assert.
:clap: :+1:

JWK

The Democrat Leaders promise for free cheese doesn’t work in Cuba, doesn’t work in Venezuela ___ it only works for corrupted politicians who confiscate and then redistribute “free cheese”.


#109

We are a democratic republic, that means DEMOCRACY!


#110

:roll_eyes:

In a democracy the people vote on legislation. In our representative “Republican Form of Government”, which is guaranteed by Article 4, Section 4, of our Constitution, our elected representatives vote on legislation.

Now, once again I ask, why do you have trouble referring to our system as a constitutionally limited “Republican Form of Government”, or, a constitutionally limited representative republic, both of which accurately describe our system of government?

JWK

"I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America, and to the republic for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all."


#111

Because its a democratic republic.


#112

Our Constitution disagrees with you.

From our Constitution, Article 4, Section 4:

The United States shall guarantee to every State in this Union a Republican Form of Government

Our “form” of government is a “Republican Form of Government”.

The United States may properly be described as a constitutionally “representative republic”.

JWK

At the close of the Constitutional Convention in Philadelphia on September 18, 1787, a Mrs. Powel anxiously awaited the results and as Benjamin Franklin emerged from the long task now finished asked him directly, Well, Doctor, what have we got? A republic or a monarchy?' A republic, if you can keep it,’ responded Franklin.


#113

Yep, a DEMOCRATIC republic.


#114

Youre really gonna go with this, eh?

Then explain for the class why the ONLY office we vote for in this country that ISNT decided by a popular vote is the presidency.

The answer, of course, is because we are a unique blend of both a democracy and a republic. Trying to imply that we arent a form of democracy is just silly.


#115

You miss the point or are intentionally obtuse.

In a democracy the people vote on legislation. In our representative “Republican Form of Government”, which is guaranteed by Article 4, Section 4, of our Constitution, our elected representatives vote on legislation.

In a “democracy” 51 percent of the population can vote to confiscate the remaining portion of the population’s property. And that is why “democracy” is often referred to as “mob rule government”. Rights associated with property ownership can be denied by popular vote.

JWK

John Adams was absolutely correct when he pointed out that “democracy will envy all, contend with all, endeavor to pull down all; and when by chance it happens to get the upper hand for a short time, it will be revengeful, bloody, and cruel” _. Witness today the suicidal path our democrat socialists have chosen to take, supported by a Fifth Colum media and Yellow Journalists.**


#116

Im the one being obtuse? Really?

This coming from the guy who is actually arguing that there arent elements of democracy within our government.

By defintion, republic and representative democracy are essentially one and the same.

Within a republic, those that vote on the legislation are democratically selected, and that matters. Hence, democratically elected legislators representing the people who elected them.

You are arguing a distinction without any real difference.


#117

:roll_eyes:

That is not what I’m arguing. I’m not arguing about anything. I am stating facts. And the irrefutable fact is, Tucker Carlson is in error when he indicates we are a “democracy”.

JWK


#118

Tomato, tomatoe…a form of democracy is basically a democracy, isnt it? Its not like he called us a direct democracy, which we arent.

A republic is a form of democracy…unless you are going to enlighten us on how the people who do the representing of the people in a republic become the legislators without some element of democracy being utilized.

What you claim is only a fact if you assume facts not in evidence to make that leap.


#119

I just wish it wasn’t so obvious why they want to get people stop saying we’re a democracy.


#120

What form of government does our Constitution guarantee? A Republican Form of Government, or a democracy?

JWK


#121

Come on man…i would like to think you arent that dense.

You are basically arguing that a humpback whale (republic in this example) isnt a whale because its not a blue whale (direct democracy in this example), as if they arent actually BOTH whales (different kinds of democracy in this example).

They guaranteed a republic…which is a type of democracy. Arguing otherwise makes you look silly.