Has Biden given up on the vaccine mandates for employers with over 100 workers?

I have seen no evidence that the Biden administration has issued an executive order for vaccine mandates for employer with more than 100 employees. It has been over a month since Biden announced the alleged mandates. Does that mean that the Biden administration has abandoned mandates?

Has Pfizer actually started to offer the COMIRNATY vaccine that the FDA approved? If not why not?

Here is what the FDA has said:

Comirnaty has the same formulation as the FDA-authorized Pfizer-BioNTech COVID-19 vaccine and can be used interchangeably to provide the COVID-19 vaccination series without presenting any safety or effectiveness concerns. The products are legally distinct with certain differences that do not impact safety or effectiveness.
Q&A for Comirnaty (COVID-19 Vaccine mRNA) | FDA

If they are legally distinct, but the same formulation, is the delay in releasing the Comirnaty vaccine part of a strategy to avoid liabilities for vaccine-related injuries?

There seems to be a lot of smoke and mirrors related to the vaccines. What is going on?

The mandates are allegedly supposed to be effective starting December 8. Does the failure to issue an executive order mean that Biden has abandoned the mandates?


“The Labor Department is going to shortly issue an emergency rule — which I asked for several weeks ago, and they’re going through the process — to require all employees [employers] with more than 100 people, whether they work for the federal government or not — this is within a — in the purview of the Labor Department — to ensure their workers are fully vaccinated or face testing at least once a week.”

Yes, the check is in the mail.

Are they delaying intentionally to prevent court challenges?

Where is the due process?

Normally federal rules take years to develop.


How would a delay prevent court challenges?

What process is due, exactly?


It’s government speed.

Why would delaying prevent court challenges? I assume it can’t be really challenged in court until its enacted.

Here is a quote from the Federalist link in the OP:

It’s all a mirage. Biden’s so-called vaccine mandate doesn’t exist — at least, not yet. So far, all we have is his press conference and other such made-for-media huff-puffing. No such rule even claiming to be legally binding has been issued yet.

That’s why nearly two dozen Republican attorneys general who have publicly voiced their opposition to the clearly unconstitutional and illegal mandate haven’t yet filed suit against it, the Office of the Indiana Attorney General confirmed for me. There is no mandate to haul into court. And that may be part of the plan.

The governor of Texas has issued an executive order banning mandates, but the management of Southwest Airlines is apparently claiming that they will follow a non-existent federal rule instead.

How does that work legally?

If the Biden administration is using extra-legal threats and intimidation to enforce the mandate, then they can claim that the actions of the companies is strictly voluntary since no rule has been issued.

Mafia-style government.


You should read your link more closely.

Southwest is a government contractor.

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Isn’t the mandate for federal workers and contractors already in place?

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You have to prove that they are using “extra-legal threats and intimidation” first.

Yes, where is the alleged executive order for government contractors? Please provide a link.

Lawyers for big business were blunt about their love for this mandate mirage: “Everybody loves this cover,” Minneapolis employment lawyer Kate Bischoff told Bloomberg Law in September. “Many were already looking down the road at doing this, but the fact that they get to blame Biden is like manna from heaven.”

. . . “OSHA has used that legal authority only 10 times in 50 years,” David Rivkin Jr. and Robert Alt wrote in the Wall Street Journal in September. “Courts have decided challenges to six of those standards, nixing five and upholding only one.”.

The process has become a mockery of rule of law.

It looks like everything is stacked to exempt the vaccine makers and big employers from liability for vaccine-related injuries while sticking it to the average workers.


Yes, instead of challenging an actual rule in court, states would have to prove that the federal government is violating the law.

The Texas strategy of banning mandates may make a lot of sense. They can enforce that requirement without the federal rule. The company can’t claim that a non-existent executive order prevents them from following state law.

I actually agree Biden’s earlier statement about the vaccine approval process from November 9, 2020:

. . . the approval process must be also be grounded in science and fully transparent so that the American people can have every confidence in that any approved vaccine is safe and effective . . .
Vaccine process 'must be grounded in science': Biden - YouTube

Shady legal maneuvers with the alleged mandate and shell games with approving one vaccine while Pfizer sells another are not reassuring to the American people.

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Why can’t you find this stuff yourself?

It’ll be an interesting fight to watch.

Okay, the where is the link for the 100-employee mandate?

It looks like Southwest and the other airlines will have to turn down federal contracts or leave Texas to comply with both federal and state laws.

I don’t know. Probably part of some older law.

More likely it will go to court.

It helps to be aware of what’s going on.

This looks like feelings.

Or, they can just (figuratively) tell Abbott to go ■■■■ himself. Abbott’s executive order has no teeth.

How will they “enforce” it?

Yes, principles that Biden clearly endorsed in November. Now he is saying basically forget about any transparency or actual science.

Shut up and get the shot or get fired.

At that same time Biden is protecting big business and Big Pharma.

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