Harris vs Trump Policy Discussion

[biggestal99]

@Samm

The Federal Highway Trust Fund comes from user fees, not income taxes.

You didn’t answer my question … Is New Jersey reneging on their agreement to maintain the roads that they built with Federal money? No real need to answer, I guess. If they had, they wouldn’t need the money that Biden borrowed from future generations to buy votes with by calling it inflation reduction. What a scam you guys are running.

we finally get some money back from the feds to fund much needed repairs to roads and righties whine about WHERE the money comes from.

its thats what it has come down to?

for shame wanting to deprive American citizens of good roads to drive on.

Allan

[Eagle-Keeper]

@tnt

think all income should be treated the same. Wages, capital gains, tips…

We can easily help the lower income folks by adjusting the federal income tax threshold.

Treat all income the same.

So you favor a flat tax?

[tnt]

@Eagle-Keeper

@tnt

think all income should be treated the same. Wages, capital gains, tips…

We can easily help the lower income folks by adjusting the federal income tax threshold.

Treat all income the same.

So you favor a flat tax?

No. Flat taxes are regressive.

I favor treating all income equally with a progressive tax. But treating all income equally would allow us to drastcially reduce tax rates for everyone, but I realize some will still end up paying more.

I fail to see why income from digging a ditch should be potentially taxed higher than income from managing a stock portfolio.

[Eagle-Keeper]

@tnt

@Eagle-Keeper

@tnt

think all income should be treated the same. Wages, capital gains, tips…

We can easily help the lower income folks by adjusting the federal income tax threshold.

Treat all income the same.

So you favor a flat tax?

No. Flat taxes are regressive.

I favor treating all income equally with a progressive tax. But treating all income equally would allow us to drastcially reduce tax rates for everyone, but I realize some will still end up paying more.

I fail to see why income from digging a ditch should be potentially taxed higher than income from managing a stock portfolio.

But the current marginal/progressive tax rates do not treat all income as equal that would be a flat tax. And under the current marginal tax rates people digging ditches making $20/hr ($40,000/yr) are taxed less than a portfolio manager making $300,000/yr.

[tnt]

@Eagle-Keeper

But the current marginal/progressive tax rates do not treat all income as equal that would be a flat tax. And under the current marginal tax rates people digging ditches making $20/hr ($40,000/yr) are taxed less than a portfolio manager making $300,000/yr.

I was alluding to the carried interest loop hole which allows fund managers to be taxed at a lower rate.

[WuWei]

@tnt

Flat taxes are regressive.

[Eagle-Keeper]

@tnt

@Eagle-Keeper

But the current marginal/progressive tax rates do not treat all income as equal that would be a flat tax. And under the current marginal tax rates people digging ditches making $20/hr ($40,000/yr) are taxed less than a portfolio manager making $300,000/yr.

I was alluding to the carried interest loop hole which allows fund managers to be taxed at a lower rate.

That income is taxed at roughly 24%, which is still much higher than people digging ditches.

[Samm]

@biggestal99

@Samm

The Federal Highway Trust Fund comes from user fees, not income taxes.

You didn’t answer my question … Is New Jersey reneging on their agreement to maintain the roads that they built with Federal money? No real need to answer, I guess. If they had, they wouldn’t need the money that Biden borrowed from future generations to buy votes with by calling it inflation reduction. What a scam you guys are running.

we finally get some money back from the feds to fund much needed repairs to roads and righties whine about WHERE the money comes from.

its thats what it has come down to?

for shame wanting to deprive American citizens of good roads to drive on.

The shame is, your state reneged on its obligation to maintain its roads and now expects the workers of America to pay for it.

By the way, how did borrowing all that money you are spending on fixing your neglected roads reduce inflation? Can you explain that please?

[Samm]

@tnt

@Eagle-Keeper

@tnt

think all income should be treated the same. Wages, capital gains, tips…

We can easily help the lower income folks by adjusting the federal income tax threshold.

Treat all income the same.

So you favor a flat tax?

No. Flat taxes are regressive.

I favor treating all income equally with a progressive tax. But treating all income equally would allow us to drastcially reduce tax rates for everyone, but I realize some will still end up paying more.

I fail to see why income from digging a ditch should be potentially taxed higher than income from managing a stock portfolio.

A flat tax with a substantial standard deduction (say $40-50,000) is not the least bit regressive.

[PurpnGold]

@Samm

@tnt

@Eagle-Keeper

@tnt

think all income should be treated the same. Wages, capital gains, tips…

We can easily help the lower income folks by adjusting the federal income tax threshold.

Treat all income the same.

So you favor a flat tax?

No. Flat taxes are regressive.

I favor treating all income equally with a progressive tax. But treating all income equally would allow us to drastcially reduce tax rates for everyone, but I realize some will still end up paying more.

I fail to see why income from digging a ditch should be potentially taxed higher than income from managing a stock portfolio.

A flat tax with a substantial standard deduction (say $40-50,000) is not the least bit regressive.

You don’t know the definition of regressive.

A flat tax would be a major windfall for me!

[Samm]

@PurpnGold

@Samm

@tnt

@Eagle-Keeper

@tnt

think all income should be treated the same. Wages, capital gains, tips…

We can easily help the lower income folks by adjusting the federal income tax threshold.

Treat all income the same.

So you favor a flat tax?

No. Flat taxes are regressive.

I favor treating all income equally with a progressive tax. But treating all income equally would allow us to drastcially reduce tax rates for everyone, but I realize some will still end up paying more.

I fail to see why income from digging a ditch should be potentially taxed higher than income from managing a stock portfolio.

A flat tax with a substantial standard deduction (say $40-50,000) is not the least bit regressive.

You don’t know the definition of regressive.

A flat tax would be a major windfall for me!

That is not the definition of regressive. That’s actually what we’re going for. Middle class paying less taxes.

[RTchoke]

@Samm

@PurpnGold

@Samm

@tnt

@Eagle-Keeper

@tnt

think all income should be treated the same. Wages, capital gains, tips…

We can easily help the lower income folks by adjusting the federal income tax threshold.

Treat all income the same.

So you favor a flat tax?

No. Flat taxes are regressive.

I favor treating all income equally with a progressive tax. But treating all income equally would allow us to drastcially reduce tax rates for everyone, but I realize some will still end up paying more.

I fail to see why income from digging a ditch should be potentially taxed higher than income from managing a stock portfolio.

A flat tax with a substantial standard deduction (say $40-50,000) is not the least bit regressive.

You don’t know the definition of regressive.

A flat tax would be a major windfall for me!

That is not the definition of regressive.

[tnt]

That’s better, but not what was discussed.

And still regressive when comparing middle class tax payers to the to 5%.

[tnt]

Purple is not middle class.

[WuWei]

A flat tax is not regressive.

[Samm]

@tnt

That’s better, but not what was discussed.

And still regressive when comparing middle class tax payers to the to 5%.

There was no discussion. The only thing said was “flat tax.” Nobody has seriously proposed a flat tax on every dollar of income.

Middle class is currently between about &40,000 to $130,000. A $40,000 exemption means they would pay the flat tax on zero to $90,000 of their income making a 10% (for example) flat tax be between zero and 6.9%. People making $130,000 today pay closer to 12-14% on their taxable income.

For a top 5%er, ($336k and up) the $40k exemption is far less significant and thus they would be taxed near the full 10%.

Note, I used 10% to make the math easy in my head. It could just as easily be 15 or even 20% if Congress decided to go that way. The point is, it demonstratively is NOT a regressive tax.

[Ben_Natuf]

a flat tax like that would be more progressive than the current tax structure. But leftists won’t get the endorphin rush of sticking it to the rich.

[Eagle-Keeper]

@mot1man

@DisturbedGuy

The bipartisan bill was a good start until Trump killed it.

How many Rebublicans were in favor of that bill?

ETA… Is that you Kamala? She said the exact same thing. How is that you are using her exact words?

Here’s the idea of the immigration reform Dems want:

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime/any-claim-blue-city-crime-is-down-is-a-hoax-darrin-porcher/vi-AA1oJj0P?ocid=msedgntp&pc=LCTS&cvid=fcfd6493ba5d4df1b7b3a82e582bff7c&ei=67

All America should look like this!

[Eagle-Keeper]

@DisturbedGuy

@WuWei

Stop dude.

What I posted is an accurate description of where we are. Yes, it was too much for a while, but we need a robust immigration policy.

More terrorists in the country is exactly what the Harris/Biden policy entails!

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/florida-ag-demands-answers-after-report-found-nearly-100-potential-terrorist-migrants-released-by-biden-admin/ar-AA1oNJI4?ocid=msedgntp&pc=LCTS&cvid=2d198dded0fe4662878a78a86c52ba38&ei=13

[Supreme_War_Pig]

@Samm

@PurpnGold

@Samm

@PurpnGold

Trump stole the idea from Ron Paul if you want to get real. But I don’t see it as stealing. You see to. Weird

Ron Paul didn’t come up with the idea. It has been discussed ever since the IRS started taxing tips in 1982, under the TEFR Act, which was passed by the Democratically controlled 96th Congress.

Plus, while Ron Paul wanted to be President, he was never a serious contender (unlike Trump, who is.)

It wasn’t Trumps idea. It wasn’t Kamala’s idea. That is my point.

No, that’s not your point. Your point is to cover your glee that Kamala took away one of Trumps best gambits to steal youth and low income votes from her by pretending it doesn’t matter

That’s a Kinsley Gaffe, right there