Guess the proxy war is not going too well

[Gaius]

Hypothetically, there might be some truth to what those Op-Ed website are Op-Eding.

What we know is
Russia launched an offensive. It stalled.
Ukraine launched a counter-offensive. It stalled.

Some previously smart people have jumped to giant conclusions based on that.

[conan]

@Gaius

Some previously smart people have jumped to giant conclusions based on that.

Well some pretty smart people been getting us into wars for long time…and profiting off of it.

Same people that profits selling out America too.

[Bill.in.PA]

The Ukranian war has been a war of attrition since last summer. Western news media have concentrated on territorial gains, which are pretty much irrelevant.

A war of attrition is all about destroying the enemy army and its supplies. Ukraine and its NATO allies are running out of everything at this point, and the likely end result is an eventual collapse as Vlahos describes.

[Samm]

@SixFoot

When was the last time an IED was used in Ukraine? Have any been used?

IEDs are only necessary if one does not have access to conventional mines. Ukraine has (apparently) plenty of those, as the Russians have lost numerous armored vehicles on and along the roadways to mines. Ukraine’s improvised weapon of choice seems to be mortar rounds dropped on personnel from drones.

[Samm]

@biggestal99

i like the idea of a dmz between ukraine and russia.

Taken from which country? Enforced by who?

[SixFoot]

@Samm

@SixFoot

When was the last time an IED was used in Ukraine? Have any been used?

IEDs are only necessary if one does not have access to conventional mines. Ukraine has (apparently) plenty of those, as the Russians have lost numerous armored vehicles on and along the roadways to mines. Ukraine’s improvised weapon of choice seems to be mortar rounds dropped on personnel from drones.

You have no concept of how useful they are and would be.

[Bill.in.PA]

A DMZ between Russia and the Polish border is a likely outcome of the war.

[Samm]

@YOSUP

@JayJay

@Camp

That isn’t praise.

It is a reality check.

What reality check?

How long do you think Russia can keep that up?

And that we need fear their economy, which is smaller than Italy’s?

The ruble is worth more now than previous to their war with Ukraine and so is their economy and import and export business.

Worth more where? Inside Russia?

[Ben_Natuf]

navigate, sure. But those fields are covered by indirect and direct fire. would we even try it without air cover? No, we wouldn’t. Ukraine is basically using storm shadows and GMLRS in place of air support. Not an easy task.

[Samm]

@Camp

'Drone attack' on stealth bomber plant leaves at least one dead in Moscow

How long before Russia lashes out?

A year and a half ago …

[biggestal99]

@Samm

Taken from which country? Enforced by who?

half and half. un troops?

Allan

[Samm]

@SixFoot

@Samm

@SixFoot

When was the last time an IED was used in Ukraine? Have any been used?

IEDs are only necessary if one does not have access to conventional mines. Ukraine has (apparently) plenty of those, as the Russians have lost numerous armored vehicles on and along the roadways to mines. Ukraine’s improvised weapon of choice seems to be mortar rounds dropped on personnel from drones.

You have no concept of how useful they are and would be.

How does the fellow being blown up know the difference between an IED and a conventional mine?

[Samm]

@Bill.in.PA

A DMZ between Russia and the Polish border is a likely outcome of the war.

You can only hope …

[Samm]

@biggestal99

@Samm

Taken from which country? Enforced by who?

half and half. un troops?

The UN does not have troops, UN nations have troops. So again, whose troops?

[biggestal99]

@Samm

So again, whose troops?

troops with the UN helmet.

its been done before.

Allan

[Ben_Natuf]

its entirely possible, once Minsk is returned to Poland

[biggestal99]

@biggestal99

troops with the UN helmet.

its been done before.

Allan

see UN peacekeeping missions in 2023.

there are 12 ongoing.

do i actually have to explain this to you.

Allan

[STODR]

A person knowing what blew him up was neither your point or his. Please Don’t start debating like a lib.

[STODR]

He didn’t ask if they were somewhere he asked whose troops?

[biggestal99]

@STODR

He didn’t ask if they were somewhere he asked whose troops?

member nations voluntarily send troops to the United nations when asked.

some neutral country obviously.

Allan