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I put in the work for that job.

The new guy has to pay his dues.

Allan

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This is incorrect and easily provable as false.

Is there more automation today then there was in 1979?

Are there more people working today (Both at % and in numbers) today or in 1979?

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Nothing in that post is wrong.

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And whats the single worker, blue collar family, look like in comparison?

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He has to pay his dues! How is he going to get to the Dues Cashier?

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It’s all completely wrong.

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Lets just pick one things -Since you said its completely wrong.

One -I said those effected are not just those that make min wage - but those that make under the new min wage. This is common sense. If Min wage is $7.35, And I make $10 a hour. I am not currently in the number of people that make min wage. But if min wage increases to $11 a hour -then my employer will have to pay me at least $11 a hour. So I got a raise with the increase in min wage despite not making min wage before.

So go ahead -Tell me what part of that is wrong?

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You assuming you keep your job.

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Actually -1 - i didnt say that. I said it effects more then just those making min wage. You said that was wrong.
IF you lose your job (You wont, but lets say you will) that effects you right?

Ok - So those 3 posts where you said “EVERYTTHING is wrong” we can dismiss that since now you have shown that you didnt read them, didnt think it through, or were just wrong. Either way -waste of time.

now -lets discuss if you lose your job. Clearly you have never worked at a company that relies on Min wage labor. I have. For the most part - You hire someone at min wage because you need that person to operate. You can not do your business and keep up with demand without those people. They don’t require much skill, you dont expect them to stay long, but you absolutely need them. This is why you hired them AT min wage.

So no - they don’t lose their job because you still need them to operate.
Now -a better argument against min wage is price increases. That is the first place you go on min wage increase. The people i have to pay more are the people i absolutely need to meet the demand of my business. They stay. BUT i do need to raise my prices. That does happen. The question is how much? Its not a 1 to 1. Meaning its not dollar for dollar but i need to make enough to cover it.

But what i cant do, is eliminate the position.

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Rationalize it anyway you want to.

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I agree that it’s probably not 1:1 increase. But you also have to remember that any good, service, or supplier, to your business is also increasing its prices. They are passing their wage increases off on you, and you in turn will pass on those increases to whomever you sell to.

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Why is it not 1:1?

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Yup. I agree. As I said, price increases is a argument against min wage, and at a min a factor that has to be taken in consideration when you discuss min wages.
Eliminating min wage positions due to increase of min wage is not. Due to the nature of min wage positions, you don’t eliminate those.

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If I answer will you actually debate or just said “no” and not participate

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Because if the market demand won’t support the increase in cost, and the profit margins will still sustain a profit, some product lines or items may not see a 1:1 increase in price.

Granted that would be getting down into the nitty gritty for each individual business and product.

If I had to hazard a guess though, I would peg it at over 0.9:1 when it’s all said and done.

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No, you still eliminate some. Self checkouts, and fast food kiosks come to mind.

That can’t all be blamed on the minimum wage though. But it is a factor in it.

The technology has gotten cheaper, and the labor more expensive. Both contribute.

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Good post.
I agree it depends on the busniess and number of transaction, if you are still growing or operating and full capacity.

But if I pay people 25% more doesn’t mean I charge 25% more per item.

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Oh. I never thought it would be 25% to 25%.

Say a guy makes a part that sells for $1, but he makes 100 of them an hour.

If his wage goes up by a dollar the company only have to raise the price per item by 0.01 to cover his wage, plus whatever the other costs involved go up.

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I disagree.
First, kiosk has not eliminated a single job in Reasturants. This is my wheel house. When a Kiosk works (and they do) best case is we eliminate a cashier but hire a extra cook.

But truth is as technology has gotten cheaper companies will try to eliminate labor regardless of what the wage is.

In many states with tip credit, where servers may 2.13 a hour, pay at table is pooping up everywhere enabling reasturants to hire less servers.

Doesn’t matter that the servers wage was only 2.13 a hour, the technology is cheap and easy so companies do it.

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You are I are in very close agreement on this.

To me, that I’d a factor to take in consideration. Not a reason not to increase min wage, just a factor.