Growing evidence that Wuhan coronavirus orginated in a lab

Axxowiz · 2020-04-21T22:36:59.575Z

They aren’t going to stop stealing as long as we’re there. It should have terrified everyone when they threatened to wash us in an ocean of coronavirus because we get our medicine ingredients from them an they were threatening us that they would withhold them.l from us.

Seems like the generations before us were smart enough not to put all our manufacturing in the Soviet Union, but Communist China the greed outweighed the possible negatives which have been in full view for awhile now, as we have enriched a totalitarian government.

WildRose · 2020-04-22T11:29:44.116Z

There’ s close to 1.5bn decent folks in China and a handful of CCP power brokers and leaders that enslave them.

One of these days the CCP will go too far and the populace will decide slavery is a fate worse than death and remove the problem.

Bill.in.PA · 2020-05-03T16:29:17.468Z

The Daily Telegraph in Australia recently published excerpts from a leaked intelligence study assembled by western governments about the origin of the virus and the early response in China:

. . .major themes include the “deadly denial of human-to-human transmission”, the silencing or “disappearing” of doctors and scientists who spoke out, the destruction of evidence of the virus from genomic studies laboratories, and “bleaching of wildlife market stalls”, along with the refusal to provide live virus samples to international scientists working on a vaccine. . . “the suppression and destruction of evidence” and points to “virus samples ordered destroyed at genomics labs, wildlife market stalls bleached, the genome sequence not shared publicly, the Shanghai lab closure for ‘rectification’, academic articles subjected to prior review by the Ministry of Science and Technology and data on asymptomatic ‘silent carriers’ kept secret”.

https://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/coronavirus/bombshell-dossier-lays-out-case-against-chinese-bat-virus-program/news-story/55add857058731c9c71c0e96ad17da60

The article points reviews published papers that describe gain-of-function experiments associated with the Wuhan lab and risks associated with accidental release from a lab, but it plays down the likelihood that the current virus is a result of similar experiments.

My observation is that 96% of the virus genome is virtually identical to that of a natural virus studied at the lab and reported in published papers. The remaining 4% appears to be from another virus entirely, and that 4% is directly related to the ability of the virus to infect humans. My opinion is that the most likely origin is that scientists in the Wuhan lab were responsible for the insertion of the new genes into an existing bat coronavirus.

A senior Russian scientist agrees and speculates that the virus may have been developed as part of research not intended as a weapon. Other scientists have speculated that the virus may have been developed as part of research into possible HIV vaccines :

Mail Online – 23 Apr 20

Wuhan scientists 'did absolutely crazy things' to alter coronavirus

World renowned expert Professor Petr Chumakov claimed their aim was to study the pathogenicity of the virus and not 'with malicious intent' to deliberately create a manmade killer.

Samm · 2020-05-04T00:23:54.382Z

I just hope Trump doesn’t start tweeting about this. The Media will completely dismiss it.

WildRose · 2020-05-04T12:42:48.168Z

Democrats have been all along and keep trying to blame Trump.

Given what he knew and the timeline I can’t see it. I wanted earlier and more draconian actions all the way back in January but there just wasn’t enough justification nor the political will to support them at the time.

Bill.in.PA · 2020-05-11T01:31:54.488Z

UPDATE:

A blogger notes that a comparison between the COVID-19 virus and the alleged bat virus (RaTG13) is its closest relative shows unusual patterns that are in consistent with natural evolution. Interestingly, Dr. Zhengli Shi from the Wuhan Virology Lab reported the RaTG13 virus as being collected in 2013, but it was not described in published papers until 2020, after the COVID-19 virus epidemic. The blogger concludes this about the origin of the viruses:

A safe conclusion is that, between the Wuhan coronavirus and RaTG13, at least one is non-natural. If one is natural, then the other one must be not. Of course, the other possibility also exists – neither of them came from nature.

Nerd Has Power

RaTG13 is fake

(This is an updated version of my earlier writing, which has just been published at GNEWS: https://gnews.org/192144/ . Unfortunately, the GNEWS version has a few editing errors. So, I am posting...

Here are figures from the link that shows the differences appear to be inconsistent with natural evolution:

Picture2047×715 62.4 KB

Figure 3. Comparing the nucleotide sequences of different spike proteins on the synonymous mutations (green curve) and non-synonymous mutations (red curve) reveals evidence of human manipulation. A. comparison between two related bat coronaviruses ZC45 (MG772933) and ZXC21 (MG772934), which are nature-borne. B. comparison between the Wuhan coronavirus (NC_045512) and RaTG13 (MN996532) shows a pattern inconsistent with natural evolution.

The blogger raises an interesting point that should be easily verified by other researchers. If the alleged bat virus RaTG13 was really generated in a lab to match features of the COVID-19 virus, then it further supports the claim that the COVID-19 virus is also a product of a lab. This analysis could be a smoking gun showing the depth of deception that has gone on in China.

rp5x5 · 2020-05-11T05:10:25.497Z

This write up is good!

Nerd Has Power

RaTG13 is fake

(This is an updated version of my earlier writing, which has just been published at GNEWS: https://gnews.org/192144/ . Unfortunately, the GNEWS version has a few editing errors. So, I am posting...

Bill.in.PA · 2020-05-11T11:10:14.561Z

Assuming that the analysis in the blog is correct, it blows an enormous hole in the Nature paper (The proximal origin of SARS-CoV-2 | Nature Medicine) used to dismiss the possibility of a lab origin for the coronavirus. The Nature paper assumes that the RaTG13 virus really came from a bat and references the 2020 paper from researchers in Wuhan (A pneumonia outbreak associated with a new coronavirus of probable bat origin | Nature).

As the blogger points out, the genetic differences between the two viruses are not consistent with natural evolution. If RaTG13 virus really is a natural virus from a bat, then the COVID1-19 virus has to be man-made. On the other hand if RaTG13 is really man-made, then then a basic assumption of analysis in the Nature paper is false, and RaTG13 appears to be a sham to hide the true origin of COVID-19. Either way the blogger’s analysis shows that the COVID-19 virus almost certainly came from a lab and was most likely the result of genetic manipulation.

I suspect that the blogger’s analysis may be something that government researchers already knew in many parts of the world, but the work has been classified. Now researchers outside of government labs can easily confirm the analysis, which means that secrecy is no longer possible.

We may be approaching an “emperor-has-no-clothes” moment.

Bill.in.PA · 2020-05-23T13:10:23.291Z

Recent research from biologists in the US and Canada shows that COVID-19 virus was already highly optimized for transmission in humans when the first samples came from the Wuhan wet market. Evolution of the virus has been remarkable slow since then, which is much different from the behavior of earlier human viruses with an natural origin from animals.

For example, the earlier SARS virus showed rapid evolution that slowed as it adapted to humans. The difference in evolution supports the idea that the COVID-19 originated as result of development in a lab, and it did not come from animals in a wet market.

Here an excerpt of news story about the recent work that includes a link to a preprint of the paper:

The new research is clear in its finding. ‘The publicly available genetic data does not point to cross-species transmission of the virus at the market,’ said Alina Chan, a molecular biologist, and Shing Zhan, an evolutionary biologist. . .They point to ‘multiple branches of evolution in both humans and animals in the 2002-04 epidemic’, adding: ‘In contrast, Sars-CoV-2 appeared without peer in late 2019, suggesting there was a single introduction of the human-adapted form of the virus into the human population.’

Mail Online – 16 May 20

Landmark study: Virus didn't come from animals in Wuhan market

Specialist biologists suggest the virus was taken into Wuhan's seafood market by a human. The news comes as Beijing thwarts global efforts to establish the source of the virus.

Bill.in.PA · 2020-09-15T23:32:47.737Z

UPDATE: Chinese dissident virologist Dr. Li-Ming Yan and three other Chinese scientists have published a preprint of a paper that details the genetics and likely pathway for the laboratory production of the coronavirus responsible for COVID-19. Dr. Li-Ming Yan posted the paper on a new Twitter account, and Twitter has move quickly to shutdown her account after less than two days.

According the “JC on a bike”, the second author, Dr. Shu Yang, is the author of the “Nerd Has Power” blog. A link to that blog appear in post 196 above.

Twitter has not provided any rational for the deletion of the account, but it is consistent with Twitter’s stated policy to suppress information that contradicts WHO and CCP orthodoxy about the coronavirus and its origin.

The proposed pathway for production of the virus involves combining genes from several viruses with an estimated development time of about six months. For the full text of the paper and a description of its brief history on Twitter see:

zerohedge.com

Zerohedge

ZeroHedge - On a long enough timeline, the survival rate for everyone drops to zero

hwyflier · 2020-09-16T01:02:14.590Z

Probably because it’s a steve bannon scam.

The Daily Beast – 15 Sep 20

Steve Bannon Is Behind Bogus Study That China Created COVID

The study goes against basically all scientific evidence and expert opinion. But it fits with the former Trump adviser’s anti-China posture.

The study is the work of the Rule of Law Society and the Rule of Law Foundation, sister nonprofit organizations that Bannon was instrumental in creating.

In addition to their work on the Rule of Law nonprofits, Bannon and Guo have also collaborated on a news website, G News, that has published stories suggesting that the coronavirus was manufactured by the Chinese military.

Axxowiz · 2020-09-16T04:30:00.624Z

I also know that they have over 1 million minorities locked in concentration camps which is not a Steve Bannon conspiracy so I wouldn’t 100% put anything past the CCP on what they are capable of.

Jezcoe · 2020-09-16T09:59:10.726Z

Axxowiz:

I also know that they have over 1 million minorities locked in concentration camps which is not a Steve Bannon conspiracy so I wouldn’t 100% put anything past the CCP on what they are capable of.

The thing where the President said that he didn’t care about that as long as China bought the right amount of soybeans?

Paul_Thomson · 2020-09-16T10:01:01.621Z

Jezcoe:

The thing where the President said that he didn’t care about that as long as China bought the right amount of soybeans?

3d-render-extreme-closeup-illuminated-260nw-526328878

Camp · 2020-09-16T11:17:41.394Z

Thanks for posting this.

We © really need to pursue the origin of CV-19 and to demand justice for the Chinese medical whistle blowers that lost their lives while trying to warn the world.

Bill.in.PA · 2020-09-16T22:57:26.409Z

Tucker Carlson interviewed the lead author yesterday. She doubled down on her allegations. She claims that the Chinese government not only created the virus through genetic manipulation, she has evidence that shows that they released it intentionally.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/health/medical/virologist-whistleblower-says-covid-19-was-intentionally-created-in-chinese-lab/vi-BB194SSE

Facebook and Twitter have taken down the video based on “independent fact checkers”. As discussed in earlier posts, the “independent fact checkers” have conflicts of interests and some have even worked for the Wuhan Lab.

My opinion is that real science is based on analysis and debate about the data, not shutting down dissent from orthodoxy that has been established by dictators and committees.

hwyflier · 2020-09-16T23:35:30.432Z

Of course Tucker fails to inform his viewers that Steve Bannon and Guo Wengui funded this and no one who isn’t on their pay-roll takes it seriously.

Bill.in.PA · 2020-09-17T00:17:28.111Z

China effectively censors US media and academic information through its massive economic and political connections:

Breitbart – 16 Apr 20

Facebook Coronavirus 'Fact Checker' Worked with Wuhan Virus Lab

Facebook is relying on a "fact checker" that uses "expert opinion" from a researcher who conducted projects with the Wuhan Institute of Virology, the biolab next to the wet market in the Chinese city of Wuhan where the Chinese virus originated.

https://apnews.com/40abd045a3f04ae49e0141d1a2be974d/Springer-Nature-blocks-access-to-articles-in-China

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-02-06/harvard-leads-u-s-colleges-that-received-1-billion-from-china

The Chinese researchers are arguably risking their lives to publish information that violates the party line from Beijing. They deserve a fair hearing.

New York Post – 1 Jun 19

Chinese dissidents are being executed for their organs, former hospital...

Zheng Qiaozhi — we will call him George — still has nightmares. He was interning at China’s Shenyang Army General Hospital when he was drafted to be part of an organ-harvesting team. The prisoner w…

SixFoot · 2020-09-17T00:58:48.158Z

It came from a lab, and those denying it are the same ones who have invested their very lives into being told how to live, where to go, and how to dress. They also like being legally bound to buy government approved products.

Axxowiz · 2020-09-19T23:37:45.894Z

If he said that he shouldn’t have, and still doesn’t take away that a million minorities are locked in concentration camps and we do business with them. I know you don’t agree with that Jezcoe regardless of ones disdain for the current president.