Greene suggests violence against door knockers

Samm · 2021-08-07T22:19:50.743Z

Supreme_War_Pig:

Samm:

Supreme_War_Pig:

WuWei:

Scratch:

DougBH:

Based on comments about the justification at the capitol building, I thought liberals approved of shooting unarmed trespassers. I’ve seen it argued that if they weren’t trespassing, they wouldn’t have been shot.

Is knocking on someones door trespassing?

Yes…

No, unless a sign is posted.

That only applies to unoccupied land.

Not according to everything I have read, including the link previously posted.

If I see you on my home property I can report you as a trespasser without having the property posted. If I catch you on my empty lot, it must be posted to accuse you of trespass, unless you refuse to leave when I demand you do so. Even commercial property owners can have you arrested for trespassing without having their property posted.

Scratch · 2021-08-07T22:25:44.933Z

Samm:

when you refuse to leave after the cops come in response to a trespasse

At that point I can be arrested for trespassing. Up until that point I can not.

Samm · 2021-08-07T22:26:41.199Z

Borgia_dude:

So the rise of AOC and similar is the result of Trump and Trumpism.

Sure, you could say that. It’s a ratcheting process that feeds on itself.

Supreme_War_Pig · 2021-08-07T22:27:13.459Z

Samm:

Supreme_War_Pig:

Samm:

Supreme_War_Pig:

WuWei:

Scratch:

DougBH:

Based on comments about the justification at the capitol building, I thought liberals approved of shooting unarmed trespassers. I’ve seen it argued that if they weren’t trespassing, they wouldn’t have been shot.

Is knocking on someones door trespassing?

Yes…

No, unless a sign is posted.

That only applies to unoccupied land.

Not according to everything I have read, including the link previously posted.

If I see you on my home property I can report you as a trespasser without having the property posted. If I catch you on my empty lot, it must be posted to accuse you of trespass, unless you refuse to leave when I demand you do so. Even commercial property owners can have you arrested for trespassing without having their property posted.

Well you can report anything you want.

The fact of the matter is, somebody walking up to your door and ringing the bell is not automatically trespassing, unless posted otherwise.

Samm · 2021-08-07T22:28:10.768Z

Good point to end this silly discussion.

Scratch · 2021-08-07T22:34:38.295Z

Samm:

but now reflect on how it applies to the thread topic, cause I’m not seeing any correlation.

DougBH:

Based on comments about the justification at the capitol building, I thought liberals approved of shooting unarmed trespassers. I’ve seen it argued that if they weren’t trespassing, they wouldn’t have been shot.

Scratch:

Is knocking on someones door trespassing?

WuWei:

Yes…

Here ya go

Samm · 2021-08-08T00:48:19.881Z

So what are you saying? That it’s okay to shoot people who come to your door uninvited? I had thought you were arguing against it … My bad.

Scratch · 2021-08-08T01:02:49.897Z

Samm:

So what are you saying? That it’s okay to shoot people who come to your door uninvited? I had thought you were arguing against it … My bad.

I was saying Babbit was doing more than trespassing when she was shot…

Samm · 2021-08-08T01:25:49.013Z

When did you say that?

And what else was she doing?

Scratch · 2021-08-08T01:51:15.340Z

Samm:

When did you say that?

Scratch:

DougBH:

Ummm…and the answer is…you should not kill people for trespassing.

She wasn’t just trespassing…She had other intent, trespassing was just a means to an end.

Here…

Samm · 2021-08-08T01:52:02.241Z

What else was she doing when she was shot?

Scratch · 2021-08-08T01:54:22.928Z

You know what she was doing…been discussed here ad nauseam, and I’m not getting into it again.

Samm · 2021-08-08T01:56:41.465Z

No I don’t. And neither do you. From the video evidence we have both seen, she was not doing anything other than trespassing.

Guilds · 2021-08-08T04:38:02.663Z

Samm:

Oooooh!

Apparently never going to happen. You make J McCarthy smile.

johnrandolph · 2021-08-08T15:17:59.994Z

Scratch:

DougBH:

Based on comments about the justification at the capitol building, I thought liberals approved of shooting unarmed trespassers. I’ve seen it argued that if they weren’t trespassing, they wouldn’t have been shot.

Is knocking on someones door trespassing?

When uninvited, yes.

Scratch · 2021-08-08T15:59:01.297Z

johnrandolph:

When uninvited, yes.

Not until staying when told to leave…or warned not to by sign/notice

Intent. In order to commit criminal trespass, you must either go onto property knowing that you don’t have permission to be there or remain on property after learning that you don’t have the right to be there.

Warning or notice required. In many states, laws require there be a warning that you aren’t allowed to be on property before you can be convicted for trespassing on the property

WuWei · 2021-08-08T17:20:42.880Z

Scratch:

go onto property knowing that you don’t have permission to be there

STODR · 2021-08-08T18:59:19.614Z

That is not true which is proven in your own post that says “Many States” not all.Many states you can not walk onto someones property and it does not even have to be posted to be considered trespassing. Here is Colorado for example: Colorado

Colorado no trespassing laws are found in Title 18 Article 4 Part 502 – 504 of Colorado’s Revised Statutes. Trespassing occurs when someone “knowingly and unlawfully enters or remains” in or on a property in which they don’t have authorization or license to do so. Trespassing can either be a felony in criminal situations or a misdemeanor in other instances. There is no specific language concerning “posted” signs or proper notice .

Scratch · 2021-08-08T19:07:17.834Z

STODR:

“knowingly and unlawfully enters or remains” or on a property in which they don’t have authorization or license to do so.

If I’m not from the area or do not know you…How would I know other wise?

STODR · 2021-08-08T19:09:37.739Z

Scratch:

STODR:

“knowingly and unlawfully enters or remains” or on a property in which they don’t have authorization or license to do so.

If I’m not from the area or do not know you…How would I know other wise?

Where I grew up it meant don’t go on property if you didn’t know if you could. Falls under the catch all of “ignorance is not an excuse”. I don’t particularly like that because it seems to only apply to us civilians and not police.