Greene suggests violence against door knockers

Scratch · 2021-08-07T21:55:03.090Z

How so? Was given no warning, and there were no signs…That’s ridiculous.

Samm · 2021-08-07T21:58:32.866Z

You may find it ridiculous, but that’s the law.

But I agree … this conversation is ridiculous.

Scratch · 2021-08-07T21:59:59.076Z

Samm:

Yes you can

No you can’t…

Intent. In order to commit criminal trespass, you must either go onto property knowing that you don’t have permission to be there or remain on property after learning that you don’t have the right to be there.

Warning or notice required. In many states, laws require there be a warning that you aren’t allowed to be on property before you can be convicted for trespassing on the property

Supreme_War_Pig · 2021-08-07T22:00:55.637Z

Samm:

Supreme_War_Pig:

WuWei:

Scratch:

DougBH:

Based on comments about the justification at the capitol building, I thought liberals approved of shooting unarmed trespassers. I’ve seen it argued that if they weren’t trespassing, they wouldn’t have been shot.

Is knocking on someones door trespassing?

Yes…

No, unless a sign is posted.

That only applies to unoccupied land.

Not according to everything I have read, including the link previously posted.

Samm · 2021-08-07T22:13:35.455Z

Scratch:

Samm:

Yes you can

No you can’t…

Intent. In order to commit criminal trespass, you must either go onto property knowing that you don’t have permission to be there or remain on property after learning that you don’t have the right to be there.

Warning or notice required. In many states, laws require there be a warning that you aren’t allowed to be on property before you can be convicted for trespassing on the property

Try proving intent when you refuse to leave after the cops come in response to a trespasser.

I’m sure you think you have made your point, but now reflect on how it applies to the thread topic, cause I’m not seeing any correlation.

Borgia_dude · 2021-08-07T22:18:07.680Z

Samm:

Scratch:

Samm:

Again, “fault” was Jay Jay’s word, not mine. Greene and other’s like her are the result … the product of … the dominance of the far left in the Democratic Party.

If it wasnt for left putting in far left Dems, the Cons woudn’t have put in a a far Right Representative…Right? Which is just another way of saying, its not their fault, they were driven to it.

Again … fault is the wrong word. It is simply what happened as a result of the rise of the far left wing of the Democrat Party during and Obama Era and it’s explosion during the Trump years.

So the rise of AOC and similar is the result of Trump and Trumpism.

Samm · 2021-08-07T22:19:50.743Z

Supreme_War_Pig:

Samm:

Supreme_War_Pig:

WuWei:

Scratch:

DougBH:

Based on comments about the justification at the capitol building, I thought liberals approved of shooting unarmed trespassers. I’ve seen it argued that if they weren’t trespassing, they wouldn’t have been shot.

Is knocking on someones door trespassing?

Yes…

No, unless a sign is posted.

That only applies to unoccupied land.

Not according to everything I have read, including the link previously posted.

If I see you on my home property I can report you as a trespasser without having the property posted. If I catch you on my empty lot, it must be posted to accuse you of trespass, unless you refuse to leave when I demand you do so. Even commercial property owners can have you arrested for trespassing without having their property posted.

Scratch · 2021-08-07T22:25:44.933Z

Samm:

when you refuse to leave after the cops come in response to a trespasse

At that point I can be arrested for trespassing. Up until that point I can not.

Samm · 2021-08-07T22:26:41.199Z

Borgia_dude:

So the rise of AOC and similar is the result of Trump and Trumpism.

Sure, you could say that. It’s a ratcheting process that feeds on itself.

Supreme_War_Pig · 2021-08-07T22:27:13.459Z

Samm:

Supreme_War_Pig:

Samm:

Supreme_War_Pig:

WuWei:

Scratch:

DougBH:

Based on comments about the justification at the capitol building, I thought liberals approved of shooting unarmed trespassers. I’ve seen it argued that if they weren’t trespassing, they wouldn’t have been shot.

Is knocking on someones door trespassing?

Yes…

No, unless a sign is posted.

That only applies to unoccupied land.

Not according to everything I have read, including the link previously posted.

If I see you on my home property I can report you as a trespasser without having the property posted. If I catch you on my empty lot, it must be posted to accuse you of trespass, unless you refuse to leave when I demand you do so. Even commercial property owners can have you arrested for trespassing without having their property posted.

Well you can report anything you want.

The fact of the matter is, somebody walking up to your door and ringing the bell is not automatically trespassing, unless posted otherwise.

Samm · 2021-08-07T22:28:10.768Z

Good point to end this silly discussion.

Scratch · 2021-08-07T22:34:38.295Z

Samm:

but now reflect on how it applies to the thread topic, cause I’m not seeing any correlation.

DougBH:

Based on comments about the justification at the capitol building, I thought liberals approved of shooting unarmed trespassers. I’ve seen it argued that if they weren’t trespassing, they wouldn’t have been shot.

Scratch:

Is knocking on someones door trespassing?

WuWei:

Yes…

Here ya go

Samm · 2021-08-08T00:48:19.881Z

So what are you saying? That it’s okay to shoot people who come to your door uninvited? I had thought you were arguing against it … My bad.

Scratch · 2021-08-08T01:02:49.897Z

Samm:

So what are you saying? That it’s okay to shoot people who come to your door uninvited? I had thought you were arguing against it … My bad.

I was saying Babbit was doing more than trespassing when she was shot…

Samm · 2021-08-08T01:25:49.013Z

When did you say that?

And what else was she doing?

Scratch · 2021-08-08T01:51:15.340Z

Samm:

When did you say that?

Scratch:

DougBH:

Ummm…and the answer is…you should not kill people for trespassing.

She wasn’t just trespassing…She had other intent, trespassing was just a means to an end.

Here…

Samm · 2021-08-08T01:52:02.241Z

What else was she doing when she was shot?

Scratch · 2021-08-08T01:54:22.928Z

You know what she was doing…been discussed here ad nauseam, and I’m not getting into it again.

Samm · 2021-08-08T01:56:41.465Z

No I don’t. And neither do you. From the video evidence we have both seen, she was not doing anything other than trespassing.

Guilds · 2021-08-08T04:38:02.663Z

Samm:

Oooooh!

Apparently never going to happen. You make J McCarthy smile.