GOP Delays Immigration Vote

RTchoke · 2018-06-22T18:47:12.252Z

Guntsu:

Go it so you want more Obama just with an R flavor thanks for clarifying

You are such a mind reader aren’t you?

Let me give you a hint. One thing that really pushes my button…don’t try to put words I did not say into my posts as if they were truth.

Guntsu · 2018-06-22T18:51:33.999Z

I did not put any words in your mouth, you typed those all on your own like a big boy.

RTchoke · 2018-06-22T18:54:31.770Z

I typed I “want more Obama just with an R flavor”?

Or are you making an implication that has no merit based on the fact I am pointing out some hypocrites on this board based on what their views were years ago when this was being discussed on the old forum?

Guntsu · 2018-06-22T18:56:50.827Z

Where you ok with Obama using military bases to hold child immigrants?

RTchoke · 2018-06-22T19:05:18.602Z

Guntsu:

Where you ok with Obama using military bases to hold child immigrants?

I was not OK with them being shipped all over nor was I OK with them being held indefinitely. I was not totally sold on the military base issue because not much information was available as to what accommodations were actually available on the bases or if they were equipped to handle the influx on short notice and would it be any better than what they already had available. I want the rules followed. If those rules include deportation then do so, and if they require vetting and it takes quite some time, and you have to stay in the detention center until completed, so be it. I do not agree that the children should be separated during that time.

I had to follow the rules, I had to pay the money, I had to wait the time to process my child. Why do you feUS citizens shouldn’t have to follow rules like I do?

Guntsu · 2018-06-22T19:06:28.829Z

But you k with it now?

RTchoke · 2018-06-22T19:09:31.737Z

Guntsu:

But you k with it now?

Do you have a reading issue?

Seriously, I just explained my viewpoint. The persons you should be addressing are those who’s viewpoints have suddenly changed due it being Trump making the recommendations. My concerns enumerated above have not changed.

Guntsu · 2018-06-22T19:15:01.667Z

RTchoke:

I was not OK with them being shipped all over nor was I OK with them being held indefinitely. I was not totally sold on the military base issue because not much information was available as to what accommodations were actually available on the bases or if they were equipped to handle the influx on short notice and would it be any better than what they already had available. I want the rules followed. If those rules include deportation then do so, and if they require vetting and it takes quite some time, and you have to stay in the detention center until completed, so be it. I do not agree that the children should be separated during that time.

Are you k with it now?

RTchoke · 2018-06-22T19:18:21.776Z

Guntsu:

RTchoke:

I was not OK with them being shipped all over nor was I OK with them being held indefinitely. I was not totally sold on the military base issue because not much information was available as to what accommodations were actually available on the bases or if they were equipped to handle the influx on short notice and would it be any better than what they already had available. I want the rules followed. If those rules include deportation then do so, and if they require vetting and it takes quite some time, and you have to stay in the detention center until completed, so be it. I do not agree that the children should be separated during that time.

Are you k with it now?

Wow, you really can’t read can you?

My concerns enumerated above have not changed.

If you just want to try and parse words and pick nits, go the heck away. I don’t have time for that crap.

Guntsu · 2018-06-22T19:20:09.027Z

Then I stand corrected, you did not think it was ok under Obama or even now under Trump.

Welcome to the fight, it was wrong then it is wrong now

MidwestIndy · 2018-06-22T19:24:08.476Z

Good thing I’m not a liberal then.

RTchoke · 2018-06-22T19:24:46.018Z

Guntsu:

Then I stand corrected, you did not think it was ok under Obama or even now under Trump.

Welcome to the fight, it was wrong then it is wrong now

There has to be a better way, however I don’t believe making me follow the rules and giving the others an out is not the way to do it. I have never been, nor will ever be, a fan of picking and choosing which laws you get to follow or uphold while ignoring others for personal or political expediency.

This immigration issue has effectively been kicked down the road for years and it needs to be decisively dealt with.

RTchoke · 2018-06-22T19:29:23.476Z

MidwestIndy:

Good thing I’m not a liberal then.

Hypocrites are on both sides. This issue it’s the libs and those who issued not a peep about this before but now are claiming it’s torture to be sent to a military base.

I’m not sure what accommodations are there or if it’s any worse or better than being in the detention center, but if you are going to call it either a good idea or a bad one you don’t get to base that solely on who made the decision to do so without being hypocritical.

ImRightYoureWrong · 2018-06-22T20:07:03.682Z

party-free:

Kids were separated under Obama sparingly-it wasn’t standard policy. It was when the best interest of the child was considered. Dangerous/criminal parents-situations like that.

That’s not what the man on the radio said

madasheck · 2018-06-24T16:06:17.153Z

DougBH:

Nearly half the House is controlled by Democrats and they have no responsibility for anything? Then let them resign.

Oh, how words matter.

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Obama's complaints about Republicans stopping his agenda are BS since he had full control for two years. He can never take responsibility.

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DougBH · 2018-06-24T16:14:10.561Z

JayJay:

And yet there’s a process in place to deal with them, used by every President before Donald Trump, that did not involve treating them like hardened criminals and separating families.

How many illegals are estimated to be in the country at the present time? That is the results of their “dealing” with it.

altair1013 · 2018-06-24T16:17:59.999Z

mobiusptc:

its the democrats fault though

Who cares? Once you get away from the conservative minority (freedom caucus) aren’t the republicans and democrats pretty much the same? They agree on open borders, they agree on Obamacare, they agree on deficit spending, they agree on a lot. You focus too much on the letter behind the name when the ideology is the same about 75 percent of the time.

sikofit · 2018-06-24T16:24:01.201Z

altair1013:

Once you get away from the conservative minority (freedom caucus) aren’t the republicans and democrats pretty much the same?

Then why don’t conservatives grow a pair and form their own party?

altair1013 · 2018-06-24T16:52:33.089Z

sikofit:

Then why don’t conservatives grow a pair and form their own party?

The only reason that you would be in favor of this is because it would split the vote get more democrats elected. That would be the very worst case scenario for conservatives. And it would definitely happen. And a conservative party is not needed. Any politician is free to vote conservative if he chooses. Having an “R” behind his name does not force him to be an establishment republican. He can vote conservative if he chooses. We should simply vote for the most conservative candidate on the ballet.

sikofit · 2018-06-24T16:58:00.415Z

altair1013:

The only reason that you would be in favor of this is because it would split the vote get more democrats elected.

And in that system conservatives are nothing but Republicans cucks. At least they accept they that their ideals are deeply in the minority cand are unable of winning on their own merits.