Going back to Work with Covid as part of the new normal.

[calirepub]

I think we just have to accept that opening up the economy is going to result in the virus spreading and people dying. We can’t wait for the vaccine. That’s a non-starter. If we wait until testing capacity is able to handle what the experts say we’re going to need we’re also going to be waiting too long. America’s economy was not designed to be put on pause. People talk about ideas like UBI or debt/rent/mortgage freezes, but that’s not going to happen. It would never get through Congress. We need to work even if it’s going to kill us. Work sets you free.

[Smyrna]

@H_Arendt

If everyone were “good” there would be no need for law and regulation. And for all those who are more concerned about profit than about goodness, their workers suffer when OSHA is relegated to the caboose.

I don’t disagree and we each make our own decisions. I choose to do it the way I would want to be treated if the roles were reversed.

[H_Arendt]

@Smyrna

@H_Arendt

If everyone were “good” there would be no need for law and regulation. And for all those who are more concerned about profit than about goodness, their workers suffer when OSHA is relegated to the caboose.

I don’t disagree and we each make our own decisions. I choose to do it the way I would want to be treated if the roles were reversed.

As I read your response, you are restating the Golden Rule – “Do unto others as you would have others do unto you.” As a fundamental moral precept the Golden Rule acknowledges the interdependence of human beings.

What we are seeing among a portion of those who are insisting on their “freedom” to ignore safety guidelines as a matter of choice is a rejection of the notion that people are interdependent in favor of individual choice.

Ayn Rand is smiling down; but, then again, she did not believe in the Golden Rule.

[Samson_Corwell]

@Eagle-Keeper

The key to getting people back to work in large numbers is going to be testing. People who test negative and are together pose no threat to each other.

Until they catch it between tests.

[FreeAndClear]

@H_Arendt

@SilverTiger

As we move to getting the country back on it’s feet we have to assume that the Covid virus will be normal part of our lives, both at work and at play, going forward. I’m wondering why we aren’t hearing anything from OSHA regarding any new safety standards for the new future workplace with Covid as an ongoing factor in the working environment? Seem that this should be a top priority in the reopening of our country.

In an economy driven by service jobs…the issue isn’t only worker safety… there is convincing customers that it is safe to receive services. This is a likely reason why we will not see the rapid return to normal that many are hoping for.

I keep seeing this being argued but i don’t see this happening.

China just allowed internal vacations for their may holidays. People promptly started taking vacations en masse

[Eagle-Keeper]

@Samson_Corwell

@Eagle-Keeper

The key to getting people back to work in large numbers is going to be testing. People who test negative and are together pose no threat to each other.

Until they catch it between tests.

What I am talking about is the business itself having the testing capability before allowing a person to go into their building. Not much different from how it is going to a sporting event with everyone getting their bags checked. This may not be possible but it does present a possible solution.

[Nemesis]

I agree testing is key but I wonder about the HIPAA impacts to employers testing and knowing the results.

There have been some temporary loosening of HIPAA rules pertaining to telehealth and disclosures of PHI made in good faith during the crisis but employees knowing the results of a medical test, well thats going to cause some privacy concerns.

[Samson_Corwell]

@Eagle-Keeper

@Samson_Corwell

@Eagle-Keeper

The key to getting people back to work in large numbers is going to be testing. People who test negative and are together pose no threat to each other.

Until they catch it between tests.

What I am talking about is the business itself having the testing capability before allowing a person to go into their building. Not much different from how it is going to a sporting event with everyone getting their bags checked. This may nokt be possible but it does present a possible solution.

Tests for pathogens aren’t instantaneous.

[Eagle-Keeper]

The quickest one I heard of was about 15 minutes.

[WildRose]

No, it will come and go. We’ll develop immunity as we get exposed or vaccinated and it will be a thing of the past for the most part.

[wiley8425]

Washington has already started lifting restrictions and people still aren’t putting themselves at risk to be served here. Ultimately, as it turns out, consumers have decided it isn’t worth the risk.

[wiley8425]

China has already gone through this with SARS/H1N1. Could be why their approach is different from ours. Of course their government is also lying to them about COVID-19, so there’s that.

[gooddad409]

@wiley8425

Washington has already started lifting restrictions and people still aren’t putting themselves at risk to be served here. Ultimately, as it turns out, consumers have decided it isn’t worth the risk.

The local restaurants are drawing some nice crowds. Guess they didn’t get your assessment here.