Global warming pfft

Oryx · 2021-04-30T16:50:12.235Z

tnt:

More importantly, conservative ideology doesn’t really care about issues. It cares about Owning the Libs. And frankly Zantax, calling for a national investment to protect us against a possible issue sometime in the future…really no way to spin that into ‘libs suck!’ so, why waste the time, you know?

This is hyperbole. When a problem is immediate and clearly defined, both parties can rouse themselves to tackle it. The problem is that we’re not proactive, we’re reactive.

NBC News – 29 Apr 21

Senate votes to open floodgates, passes bipartisan $35 billion water...

The Drinking Water and Wastewater Infrastructure Act passed overwhelmingly by a vote of 89-2.

bigtwnvin · 2021-04-30T17:07:04.289Z

America has done more than any country in the effort to reduce the amount of pollutants into the atmosphere, earth and water. Can more be done? Of course, but the last time I checked the earth rotates on an axis. The concept might not be taught in schools anymore but until other “developing” countries reduce the amount of ■■■■ they’re blasting up into the stratosphere or dumping into the oceans? And how much of the American taxpayers money are these “developing” countries taking to do not a ■■■■■■■■■ thing?

tzu · 2021-04-30T17:26:36.288Z

Maybe it would be more accurate to say that it is problematic, at best, to mistake futures/commodity trading in a non-currency metal as related to, or indicative of, modern money supply’s fortunes or woes.

tzu · 2021-04-30T18:18:00.627Z

If a man murders 500 dogs across a fifty year span is he off the hook for his conduct because another guy far away murdered 50 this year?

zantax · 2021-04-30T20:28:54.271Z

Borgia_dude:

zantax:

tzu:

Show the collapse, please.

There wasn’t much to collapse. But if you want evidence it can, here you go.

https://www.nasa.gov/topics/earth/features/sun_darkness.html

So pretty much localized to Quebec and they had the power back on in 12 hours.

That wasn’t a Carrington class event.

Samm · 2021-04-30T21:54:56.680Z

tzu:

So a single event, and one that is sensationalized? That’s anecdote, not science.

Are you one of those CME deniers or are you just being obstinate?

Samm · 2021-04-30T21:57:20.128Z

tzu:

Who thinks global warming will end the world? Names, please.

Greta Thundberg.

Samm · 2021-04-30T21:59:35.232Z

tnt:

zantax:

No amount of tax can pay for what is being spent.

Then we should just throw in the towel and make all taxes zero, right?

May as well. After all, a sudden death is preferable to a slow agonizing one.

DMK · 2021-04-30T22:24:05.434Z

TheRedComet:

It needs to be a world wide priority.

As in we pay for it or the individual countries can pay for it?

TheRedComet:

We should use that knowledge and at the very least shield our power generating stations and key parts of our economic base tech.

Seems a lot more practical than trying to change the climate.

DMK · 2021-04-30T22:26:52.869Z

SixFoot:

We don’t have some giant warehouse filled with spare parts. It would take years.

How do you make transformers without electricity?

DMK · 2021-04-30T22:28:07.129Z

tzu:

Show the collapse, please. Not an extrapolation, the events.

Show the likelihood of COVID19 and how the world was prepared for it please.

TheRedComet · 2021-04-30T22:29:12.453Z

This is something that every nation in the world needs to work on.

In our own country, this is something I would be ok with a partnership between private business and tax payers to do.

Everyone stands to lose everything if we have a CME event.

DMK · 2021-04-30T22:37:02.968Z

tnt:

You notice there are no conservative leaning posters in here even engaging with you about this issue? I suspect that is out of respect for you as a fellow conservative.

A lot of conservatives were still at work six hours ago. And it is Friday.

DMK · 2021-04-30T22:39:49.768Z

bigtwnvin:

America has done more than any country in the effort to reduce the amount of pollutants into the atmosphere, earth and water. Can more be done? Of course, but the last time I checked the earth rotates on an axis. The concept might not be taught in schools anymore but until other “developing” countries reduce the amount of ■■■■ they’re blasting up into the stratosphere or dumping into the oceans? And how much of the American taxpayers money are these “developing” countries taking to do not a ■■■■■■■■■ thing?

Seems like a proactive, common sense thing to do. A wise way to spend money - protecting Americans.

How much do we give away in foreign aid and how much do we pay for illegals?

Seems like something that would pay for itself if we cut some of that kind of fat out of the budget.

DMK · 2021-04-30T22:46:47.739Z

TheRedComet:

This is something that every nation in the world needs to work on.

I have no issue with that if they do it on their own dime.

TheRedComet:

In our own country, this is something I would be ok with a partnership between private business and tax payers to do.

Or perhaps on a State level. It’s of no benefit if podunk city does it but cannot get the means to power their grid because the supply chain has broken down.

TheRedComet:

Everyone stands to lose everything if we have a CME event.

Quite so. Newt Gingrich has been a proponent of hardening our grids for decades.

bigtwnvin · 2021-04-30T23:26:34.665Z

DMK:

Seems a lot more practical than trying to change the climate.

I wonder what the rhetoric was when folks were freezing their tookuss’ off during the Last Ice Age?
Perhaps, “We’ve got to do something about the Wooly Mammoth farts! It’s gotta be why it’s so ■■■■■■■ cold! YOI!”

TommyLucchese · 2021-04-30T23:30:52.957Z

This is literally a plot point in a sci fi novel I read like ten years ago.

bigtwnvin · 2021-04-30T23:36:43.506Z

“10,000 BC” by any chance?

TommyLucchese · 2021-04-30T23:38:02.204Z

bigtwnvin:

“10,000 BC” by any chance?

The Caryatids by Bruce Sterling. Takes place in a world where climate change has wrecked the planet.

SixFoot · 2021-05-01T00:23:48.511Z

DMK:

SixFoot:

We don’t have some giant warehouse filled with spare parts. It would take years.

How do you make transformers without electricity?

Exactly. lol