Global warming is real

and it never reforms again! Right? lol.

The so-called “ice man” may have something to say about that. :wink:

Are you here just for the snark, or do you have something to contribute to the discussion? Samm has had something real to contribute (from time-to-time :wink:). What do you think is the point of the article and exactly why do you think it is worth your derision?

Personally I view population growth as the bigger threat.

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Absolutely. The Global population was barely 1.6 billion at the turn of the twentieth century. Since then, in spite of two world wars and many mass extermination’s, some numbering in the millions, the population has grown almost five fold. If 6 billion people stopped exhaling CO2 we would not have a problem with global warming. Volunteers?

It’s not just that. You need to cut down trees in order to make livable space and build homes for this growing population. Hard to combat CO2 while eliminating trees in the process.

Frigid north winds blow down from the Arctic Ocean, freeze saltwater and push sea ice south. The ice normally prevents waves from forming and locks onto beaches, walling off villages. But not this year.

In February, southwest winds brought warm air and turned thin sea ice into “snow cone ice” that melted or blew off. When a storm pounded Norton Sound, water on Feb. 12 surged up the Yukon River and into Kotlik, flooding low-lying homes. Lifelong resident Philomena Keyes, 37, awoke to knee-deep water outside her house.

“This is the first I experienced in my life, a flood that happened in the winter, in February,” Keyes said in a phone interview.

The article goes on to say that the climate models for the are were wrong. Not wrong that effects like the above would occur, but wrong in how conservative they were - the predicted changes were not anticipated for another half century.

The article goes on to state how the record decrease in sea ice appears to be altering the ecosystems and changing the fishing grounds and perhaps resulting in the dieoffs of several species recently.

Upheaval meaning that you and most everyone you know will end up as skulls decorating a raider fortress in the climate apocalypse world is certainly stressing.

When you live at sea level, it does not take an unusual event to cause flooding.

“Elevation: 0 ft (0 m)”

lol. must become 1% er ASAP…

And don’t get me started on efforts to lift most of the worlds population out of poverty. Don’t they realize what a disaster it would be for the environment to raise global living standards?

It’s unusual when its the middle of winter and the ocean is supposed to be ice and its not for the the first time in memory for residents.

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Another record setting month.

The more research that is conducted the clearer it becomes how worse things are.

Instead of a few centimetres of thaw a year, several metres of soil can destabilize within days. Landscapes collapse into sinkholes. Hillsides slide away to expose deep permafrost that would otherwise have remained insulated.

Wildfires, becoming larger and hotter every year over the Canadian boreal forest, are also causing rapid permafrost thaw.

Nearly one-fifth of Arctic permafrost is now vulnerable to rapid warming, Turetsky’s paper suggests. Plenty of it is in Canada, such as in the lowlands south of Hudson Bay.

Soil analysis found those quickly thawing areas also contain the most carbon. Nearly 80 per cent of them hold at least 70 kilograms of carbon per cubic metre.

That suggests permafrost is likely to release up to 50 per cent more greenhouse gases than climate scientists have believed. As well, much of it will be released as methane, which is about 30 times more potent as a heat-trapping gas than carbon dioxide.

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That is not what happened. The Bearing Sea is often significantly open water that time of year. What caused the flooding was a storm. When you live at sea level, it doesn’t take much.

The sea ice protects from winter storm flooding. The lack of sea ice - which is normally present in winter according to those who live there and research the area - was gone due to warm air blowing in from the south, the opposite of typical.

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The new normal is above normal.

I know; I live here. But when you live on the coast and the elevation of your town is marked “0 feet” All it takes is a good blow to flood you whether there is ice or not. And did you read the article? There was sea ice, but it was thin and/or broken enough that the wind crumbled it up just like it does on the shores of Lake Superior and Lake Michigan. And the flooding was caused by the wind/ice surge that partially dammed the river which then flowed into the village.

The article says the sea ice that normally prevents winter flooding was compromised by warm conditions - which isn’t usual, along with the rest of everything that is unusual going on stated in the article.

Humanity does it again.