Giuliani owes the Georgia Poll Workers

[tnt]

@WuWei

They need $6B now. And not in laundered hryvni

Keep fighting comrade!

[WuWei]

Will do America Last™ neocon.

[LucyLou]

@conan

@tnt

$203,584,200 in SBA disaster loans approved for affected Maui homeowners, renters and businesses.

Loans…

Is there something different than any other US natural disaster?

[conan]

@LucyLou

Is there something different than any other US natural disaster?

Talk about missing the point…

[WuWei]

Endless wars are back!

[Safiel]

God forbid, but going back to the actual topic of this thread.

This was a just verdict.

It is plain as day as to the vicious lies, defamation and slander that Giuliani unleashed against these two completely innocent women and that the above were delivered with malicious intent.

And just as important, it is plain as day as to the EFFECT these lies, defamation and slander had on the women. Constantly stalked and threatened and subject vile and threatening harassment 24/7, all for something that was a 100% lie.

It doesn’t matter that they will likely see very little of the award.

It matters that the award was issued in that huge amount.

There are plenty of scum on Earth like Rudy Giuliani and Alex Jones who will maliciously lie and defame and destroy anybody to accomplish their aims.

The only effective deterrent is ruinous economic awards.

Hopefully, they will deter others from opening their mouths and lying and deliberately defaming others.

And I do think both Jones and Giuliani crossed a line where I believe criminal sanctions would be warranted.

The First Amendment protects free speech. It does not protect slander, libel or defamation, particularly when that slander, liberal or defamation results in harassment of persons or threats of bodily violence.

Obviously, criminal sanctions should be reserved for the most heinous and obvious cases, of which I believe Jones and Giuliani both qualify.

[Samm]

@Adam

@Samm

I didn’t. Did you?

In the future.

“Again” implies it happened before in the past.

[Samm]

@tnt

@Samm

@BlueHeron

Now those two women should slap another suit for defaming them the other day.

I was wondering about that when I saw him double down on the same accusation on NBC News last night. My first thought was “what an idiot. Is not losing one big lawsuit enough for you?”

He’s trapped.

His only chance of earning some money to live is by fleecing the die hard MAGA crew, and if he admits that his slanders were ■■■■■■■■ they will turn him off.

Correct. And if he is sued again, they won’t throw good money after bad. The word that comes to mind is “toast.”

[tnt]

@Samm

Correct. And if he is sued again, they won’t throw good money after bad. The word that comes to mind is “toast.”

The fall of Rudy is an incredible american tragedy.

[Samm]

@wonderingrover

To be honest, I wish both parties would run different candidates in 2024. I did vote Biden in 2020, but it was more of a vote against Trump than a vote for Biden. The day Trump used McCain to attack POW’s was the day I decided I would vote in a way to do everything I could to ensure that he stayed out of office. The reasons for me are personal - I have a grandfather, now deceased, who was a WWII POW in a Japanese camp. To this day, I can’t get the images of him waking up screaming from nightmares in his later years when I was helping to take care of him out of my head. For me, a vote to support Trump would be spitting on my grandfather’s grave.

Quite frankly, I can barely remember the last time I voted for a candidate for President rather than against the other guy. Fortunately (for me) I am at the end of the selection process. By the time I vote, the results are fairly well known most of the time. That frees me up to vote third party … a vote against both D and R candidates.

[Munimula1]

@WuWei

The citizens of Maui are being ignored

False. FACT SHEET: Biden-Harris Administration’s Latest Actions to Support Communities Impacted by Maui Wildfires | The White House

[Samm]

@Nemesis

Juries in civil cases always go for insane amounts. Nothing unusual about that. I am sure if will be reduced on appeal but regardless Guiliani is going to have to dig deep.

I’d say a million dollars each after lawyer’s fees would be about right.

No matter what the final outcome is, these women will be far better off financially than if they had never been slandered. But I hope they are prepared for the onslaught of locust descending on them with open hands hoping to cash in on their good fortune.

[Samm]

@bigtwnvin

@Samm

Trump is not particularly Conservative, and he certainly isn’t Republican. IMO, he is a crass, brash, hyperbole slinging, narcisistic egotist who for some reason a lot of people look at and say, “Hey! He’s cool. I think I’ll vote for him just to spite everyone else.”

Trump is not an ass kissing sleazy politician that has grifted millions of dollars enriching himself and his family while ■■■■■■■ middle class taxpayers.
Trump could be categorized as a sleazy businessman and all the descriptive adjectives listed above. The DC establishment spent years and millions of taxpayers money to rid themselves of Trump the outsider. Trump’s popularity exists because he’s got the wherewithal to say what people are thinking and feeling. He’s done some positive things and been the ■■■■■■■ he doesn’t pretend not to be.
But even with Covid and the blm/Antifa assaults on US cities, look around, the country and the ■■■■■■ up world we’re better off than the last 3 years with the ■■■■ show currently in charge.

Yeah, that’s cool. “I think I’ll vote for him to spite everyone else.”

[Samm]

@WuWei

As would I. Even though I don’t agree with Hawaii being a state.

If Hawaii was a country, Maui would probably already been rebuilt.

[Adam]

@Samm

@Nemesis

Juries in civil cases always go for insane amounts. Nothing unusual about that. I am sure if will be reduced on appeal but regardless Guiliani is going to have to dig deep.

I’d say a million dollars each after lawyer’s fees would be about right.

No matter what the final outcome is, these women will be far better off financially than if they had never been slandered. But I hope they are prepared for the onslaught of locust descending on them with open hands hoping to cash in on their good fortune.

Are they ready for the ■■■■■■■ psychopaths who still think they were rigging an election and need to be tried for treason and executed? Because those ■■■■■■■ exist. Because of the lies by Giuliani and his ilk above and below him and there are people on this forum TODAY!!! that still believe it.

[Samm]

@Munimula1

@LucyLou

Good.

And from your link

“Giuliani had already been fined more than $200,000 for some of Freeman and Moss’ attorneys’ fees, which he hasn’t paid. He also owed more than $1 million to defense attorneys who’ve helped him on other matters, prompting them to sue him this year, and hadn’t paid nearly $60,000 for years-old phone bills.”

Deadbeat loser.

And Smartmatic and Dominion aren’t done with him yet.

Going for blood out of the metaphorical turnip?

[Samm]

@Adam

@WuWei

No, they aren’t Lucy. The citizens of Maui are being ignored and even screwed over in deference to Ukraine and now Israel.

American children can’t read, mobs are looting stores in broad daylight with impunity, fentanyl and diseases are flowing from the river to both oceans. Jews are being attacked in the streets.

Meanwhile, the piss just keeps flowing overseas, and US soldiers are being used as bait. And being attacked. Your party is feeding the MIC from the pot with a ladle.

What does it take to wake you from your stupor?

Those are really close to pretty much all of the Fox News Headlines. Did you get a new job?

Which one of them are false?

[Samm]

@Adam

I’m going to bookmark this. US citizens deserve our tax dollars.

US tax dollars come from US citizens. Of course they deserve the benefit of the Government spending them.

[Adam]

@Safiel

God forbid, but going back to the actual topic of this thread.

This was a just verdict.

It is plain as day as to the vicious lies, defamation and slander that Giuliani unleashed against these two completely innocent women and that the above were delivered with malicious intent.

And just as important, it is plain as day as to the EFFECT these lies, defamation and slander had on the women. Constantly stalked and threatened and subject vile and threatening harassment 24/7, all for something that was a 100% lie.

It doesn’t matter that they will likely see very little of the award.

It matters that the award was issued in that huge amount.

There are plenty of scum on Earth like Rudy Giuliani and Alex Jones who will maliciously lie and defame and destroy anybody to accomplish their aims.

The only effective deterrent is ruinous economic awards.

Hopefully, they will deter others from opening their mouths and lying and deliberately defaming others.

And I do think both Jones and Giuliani crossed a line where I believe criminal sanctions would be warranted.

The First Amendment protects free speech. It does not protect slander, libel or defamation, particularly when that slander, liberal or defamation results in harassment of persons or threats of bodily violence.

Obviously, criminal sanctions should be reserved for the most heinous and obvious cases, of which I believe Jones and Giuliani both qualify.

Safiel, thanks for your information, we all appreciate it. But I really am lost when it comes to damages. I feel like oftentimes those come down but is that the sitting judge’s determination? I really don’t know how that works.

[Samm]

@Adam

@Samm

@Nemesis

Juries in civil cases always go for insane amounts. Nothing unusual about that. I am sure if will be reduced on appeal but regardless Guiliani is going to have to dig deep.

I’d say a million dollars each after lawyer’s fees would be about right.

No matter what the final outcome is, these women will be far better off financially than if they had never been slandered. But I hope they are prepared for the onslaught of locust descending on them with open hands hoping to cash in on their good fortune.

Are they ready for the ■■■■■■■ psychopaths who still think they were rigging an election and need to be tried for treason and executed? Because those ■■■■■■■ exist. Because of the lies by Giuliani and his ilk above and below him and there are people on this forum TODAY!!! that still believe it.

That too. Will $75 million each fix it better than $1 million? I’d wager that it would make them a bigger target to the loonies.