Girls sue to block participation of transgender athletes

[fallenturtle]

@Samm

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If its a sure thing she’ll beat him up, then its not “evenly matched”.

Aha! That’s precisely the point about letting trans women compete head to head with women.

Which is why I’m saying to stop basing it on gender and to base it on some other physical attribute(s) that will lead to only matching people up who are in similar weight (or whatever) classes.

[Samm]

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Craft the legislation to deal with issues.

Here is a better idea. Keep government out of it entirely.

Entirely? Like just down public colleges and universities entirely?

We are talking about Federal legislation. There are no Federal Universities except for the Military Academies. And furthermore, we are talking about taxation to provide students with “free” education. That Federal Government should not be involved in that … which is the gist of my post.

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If its a sure thing she’ll beat him up, then its not “evenly matched”.

Aha! That’s precisely the point about letting trans women compete head to head with women.

Which is why I’m saying to stop basing it on gender and to base it on some other physical attribute(s) that will lead to only matching people up who are in similar weight (or whatever) classes.

So, you think it’s okay if the top echelon of women’s sports are dominated by trans women?

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perfectly matched in regards to physical ability and build

What?

So two boys…

So if you have boy and a girl who are perfectly matched in regards to physical ability and build, the boy will always win?

If you have a boy and a girl who are perfectly matched in regards to physical ability and build, you have two boys.

Is there any sport that a woman could beat you in?

No…

You could beat Florence Griffith-Joyner in the 100 meter dash and also beat Brittney Griner in 1 on 1 basketball?

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@Samm

And what about all the people who paid off their loans and worked their way through college, are they going to be reimbursed?

Responsible people don’t matter. Gimme!

Gimme too. Two degrees!

You know they probably want us to pay their room and board as well too. Let’s see, unlimited free tuition and room and board, am I the only one the sees a whole lot of professional lifelong students on the horizon.

Why not just set the policy to be limited to a single degree within a set amount of years? You guys are being a great help pointing out these concerns because then we can create legislation that factors them in. HUGZ

It appears that you missed the point.

The point wasn’t that people will abuse the system and attempt to remain a college student ad infinitum on the public dole?

Nope. That’s not the point. The point is that you have no right to demand that I pay for your education, particularly when I paid for my own education.

Oh I see the issue here, I was replying to what Zantax and Sneakysfdude said in response to what you said, not you directly.

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@Samm

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@Samm

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Craft the legislation to deal with issues.

Here is a better idea. Keep government out of it entirely.

Entirely? Like just down public colleges and universities entirely?

We are talking about Federal legislation. There are no Federal Universities except for the Military Academies. And furthermore, we are talking about taxation to provide students with “free” education. That Federal Government should not be involved in that … which is the gist of my post.

Okay.

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@Samm

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@Samm

@fallenturtle

If its a sure thing she’ll beat him up, then its not “evenly matched”.

Aha! That’s precisely the point about letting trans women compete head to head with women.

Which is why I’m saying to stop basing it on gender and to base it on some other physical attribute(s) that will lead to only matching people up who are in similar weight (or whatever) classes.

So, you think it’s okay if the top echelon of women’s sports are dominated by trans women?

No. I don’t think there should be men’s sports or women’s sports, I think they should be grouped into divisions by the attributes that give biological males the advantage over biological females.

[Samm]

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@Samm

@fallenturtle

If its a sure thing she’ll beat him up, then its not “evenly matched”.

Aha! That’s precisely the point about letting trans women compete head to head with women.

Which is why I’m saying to stop basing it on gender and to base it on some other physical attribute(s) that will lead to only matching people up who are in similar weight (or whatever) classes.

So, you think it’s okay if the top echelon of women’s sports are dominated by trans women?

No. I don’t think there should be men’s sports or women’s sports, I think they should be grouped into divisions by the attributes that give biological males the advantage over biological females.

Sports are more than just boxing and wrestling. You don’t have weight classes in most sports.

[Janet_Miller]

And that’s part of the problem right there—where is the work experience employers are seeking?

Experience gained from volunteering?

Internships?

Way too many students, IMO, are being convinced they’ll get nowhere without a degree and are also failing to get other experiences while in school.

As a result, they’re ending up un or underemployed with massive student loan debt. Any degree is worthless without some sort of post university plan & career counseling while there to achieve it.

[WuWei]

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perfectly matched in regards to physical ability and build

What?

So two boys…

So if you have boy and a girl who are perfectly matched in regards to physical ability and build, the boy will always win?

If you have a boy and a girl who are perfectly matched in regards to physical ability and build, you have two boys.

Is there any sport that a woman could beat you in?

No…

You could beat Florence Griffith-Joyner in the 100 meter dash and also beat Brittney Griner in 1 on 1 basketball?

You said “a” woman. I knew you were going to do that.

[WuWei]

@Samm

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Is there any sport that a woman could beat you in?

Women are equal to men in shooting sports. Some people think they even have a physical advantage over men.

It’s not physical, it’s psychological.

No, physical … lower center of mass.

No. Psychological. “Center of mass” has nothing to do with shooting. It has to do with the target.

I taught over a thousand female soldiers to shoot. The reason they do better is they listen and don’t have to trip over their egos to get there.

[zantax]

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@fallenturtle

perfectly matched in regards to physical ability and build

What?

So two boys…

So if you have boy and a girl who are perfectly matched in regards to physical ability and build, the boy will always win?

If you have a boy and a girl who are perfectly matched in regards to physical ability and build, you have two boys.

Is there any sport that a woman could beat you in?

No…

You could beat Florence Griffith-Joyner in the 100 meter dash and also beat Brittney Griner in 1 on 1 basketball?

Let’s see, Joyner’s world record in the 100 meter was 10.49, the boys high school record is 10.13. Just saying, whether he can or not, male children can.

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@Samm

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@Samm

@fallenturtle

If its a sure thing she’ll beat him up, then its not “evenly matched”.

Aha! That’s precisely the point about letting trans women compete head to head with women.

Which is why I’m saying to stop basing it on gender and to base it on some other physical attribute(s) that will lead to only matching people up who are in similar weight (or whatever) classes.

So, you think it’s okay if the top echelon of women’s sports are dominated by trans women?

No. I don’t think there should be men’s sports or women’s sports, I think they should be grouped into divisions by the attributes that give biological males the advantage over biological females.

Sports are more than just boxing and wrestling. You don’t have weight classes in most sports.

“grouped into divisions by the attributes that give biological males the advantage over biological females”

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@WuWei

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@WuWei

@fallenturtle

perfectly matched in regards to physical ability and build

What?

So two boys…

So if you have boy and a girl who are perfectly matched in regards to physical ability and build, the boy will always win?

If you have a boy and a girl who are perfectly matched in regards to physical ability and build, you have two boys.

Is there any sport that a woman could beat you in?

No…

You could beat Florence Griffith-Joyner in the 100 meter dash and also beat Brittney Griner in 1 on 1 basketball?

You said “a” woman. I knew you were going to do that.

Florence Griffith-Joyner is a woman. Brittney Griner is also a woman. Yep, everything checks out.

[fallenturtle]

My point is that if there are women who exist who can beat men and there are men who exist who can beat women, then logic dictates there should also be possible pairings where they are evenly matched.

[zantax]

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My point is that if there are women who exist who can beat men and there are men who exist who can beat women, then logic dictates there should also be possible pairings where they are evenly matched.

You have no way to make that match. And even if you did I doubt much of an audience exists to watch top female athletes take on mediocre male athletes.

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@zantax

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My point is that if there are women who exist who can beat men and there are men who exist who can beat women, then logic dictates there should also be possible pairings where they are evenly matched.

You have no way to make that match.

How do you figure?

@zantax

And even if you did I doubt much of an audience exists to watch top female athletes take on mediocre male athletes.

This is already a difficult situation, I’ll punt and leave that to the marketers.

[WuWei]

@fallenturtle

Florence Griffith-Joyner is a woman. Brittney Griner is also a woman. Yep, everything checks out.

Which one of them is 60 with over 500 jumps on their knees and a broken back?

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@WuWei

@fallenturtle

Florence Griffith-Joyner is a woman. Brittney Griner is also a woman. Yep, everything checks out.

Which one of them is 60 with over 500 jumps on their knees and a broken back?

I don’t know. Why? The point is that its possible to match up a man vs a woman in a match where the woman can beat the man.

[WuWei]

@fallenturtle

@WuWei

@fallenturtle

Florence Griffith-Joyner is a woman. Brittney Griner is also a woman. Yep, everything checks out.

Which one of them is 60 with over 500 jumps on their knees and a broken back?

I don’t know. Why? The point is that its possible to match up a man vs a woman in a match where the woman can beat the man.

As long as it is an old man with your pick of the women?