Georgia school shooting 9/4/2024

[Guvnah]

@Munimula1

We are the only nation in the world with this kind of gun violence. So what do you make of that? Unfixable? How come every other country can manage it?

Well, at one time we trusted the population with the Constitution.

As John Adams noted: “Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other.”

Other nations don’t give their people the same liberties.

Maybe we’ve crossed the line of morality and self-control that the Constitution was expecting of us. Maybe we need to replace our government with something more oppressive and restrictive.

The thing is, doing that wouldn’t be limited just to gun rights. Toss out the Constitution we have, and all sorts of other liberties you take for granted will suddenly be up for government control as well.

[EternalVigilance]

@Guvnah

The thing is, doing that wouldn’t be limited just to gun rights. Toss out the Constitution we have, and all sorts of other liberties you take for granted will suddenly be up for government control as well.

Honestly, most progressives want that level of state control. It’s why debate on most topics is pointless.

[Striker840]

@Munimula1

Let’s ignore the problem and discuss firearms specifications.

You ALWAYS ignore the true problem…let me give you a small freakin hint…what has changed in the last 30 years?

Why did we not have these types of tragedies in the 80’s?
Why now?

[Striker840]

@Publius

@Steel-W0LF

@Publius

Right, because civilians with AR-15s are an even match for military with M-16s on full auto.

Lol. Tell me you know nothing about firearms or the military without saying it.

Here’s a hint:
The military hasn’t had full autos or m16s in about 30 years.

And I haven’t been in the military in over 30 years. When I was, they still had full auto. So sue me.

I went to boot in 1985, we NEVER used full auto and were told it was a useless waste of ammo due to barrel rise. It was all semi auto all the time, every time with our M16A1’s (they went to 3 rd burst with the A2)

[Striker840]

@coolidge

Its only been recent like within the last 30 years have we seen school shootings. I have always believed since columbine. But i am sure there were school shootings before. I know we never saw anything like this in the 80s. What is it that gives kids the motive to do this sort of thing now? The rise of social media i am sure is a factor. But it doesnt fully explain all of it.

The gun grabbers ALWAYS avoid that question when I ask it. They always want to blame the easy things like firearms. They NEVER want to look at society itself.

[Striker840]

@TheRedComet

Possibly.

But fewer people as a percentage of the population own firearms than was owned in the 1950s. So that does combat that theory some.

IMO, it’s a combination of various factors.

Plus harder to purchase, used to be you could order a rifle from the sears catalog and have it delivered to your door, no ID checks, no background check, nothing. Used to see ammo on the homegoods shelves in the grocery stores, etc.

[Striker840]

@Munimula1

It’s fantastic, isn’t it? And people can own so many that they just forget to lock them up! And they can buy them at gun shows so there’s no record of the purchase.

And no regulations can change that, right?

Every single gun show I have been to has required ONLY legal gun dealers were allowed to sell firearms AND the background checks were completed. Law enforcement patrolled the parking lot to make sure there were no backdoor sales going on.

What good is a locked up firearm?
I have more than one loaded handgun within 5 ft of me no matter where I am in the house or vehicle, been that way for years, yet absolutely nothing has happened. The ONLY time they will be secured is when my wife and I travel out of state.

[e7alr]

So this young man was on the radar, but only a shallow investigation was done initially. It is funny that the FBI can do a deep dive to determine devices and IPs used in relation to child porn and pedophiles, but they can’t be bothered to do a meta data search of an online post about shooting up a school to identify that the post was mage from one devices to which this kid had access. But they knew this kid made the posts, because they put him on his old school’s watch list, along with the old county’s sheriff’s office. Then his family moved to a new county, with no information following him to the new school district, or county sheriff.

[e7alr]

Unconfirmed report that an AK style weapon was used. Article attributes students reporting seeing a weapon, some described as an AK, on the floor next to a body as they were evacuated past the room it was in.

[Tguns]

@Striker840

The gun grabbers ALWAYS avoid that question when I ask it. They always want to blame the easy things like firearms. They NEVER want to look at society itself.

And we know why. It’s more convenient for these servile muppets to ask their masters to strip them of the rights others enjoy than it is to look at the moral decline created by the ideals they champion.

[GWH]

@Munimula1

This is a thread about a school shooting.

No one gives a damn about what you have to say.

[GWH]

@Munimula1

Stop describing guns in a thread about dead children?

Stop telling people what to do, authoritarian.

[tnt]

@WuWei

@tnt

And also, a completely wrong reading of the 2A.

What’s the correct reading?

The government didn’t have an army. They depended on militias. They wanted them to be armed when they needed them.

[tnt]

@Munimula1

We are talking about dead kids here. And dead teachers, plus 9 injured people. What makes you think your history of guns bull ■■■■ is appropriate here?

In threads about mass shootings, it’s always very important to virtue signal your appreciate and mastery of guns, lest you be mistaken for a softie interested in lessening mass shootings in the US.

[tnt]

@TheRedComet

If you can fix people wanting and planning and doing murdering then you are the greatest man who ever walked the earth.

You can’t stop that.

You can make it harder for them to get the tool they will use.

Other countries do that and it works.

[Smyrna]

Investigators said he was interviewed by law enforcement last year over online threats about committing a school shooting.

The FBI said local law enforcement had interviewed a 13-year-old subject and his father last year regarding online threats to commit a school shooting. Investigators said:

"The father stated he had hunting guns in the house, but the subject did not have unsupervised access to them. The subject denied making the threats online. Jackson County alerted local schools for continued monitoring of the subject."

Suspect identified in deadly Georgia high school shooting

If the gun used was his father’s, are the parents complicit?

[tnt]

@Striker840

You ALWAYS ignore the true problem…let me give you a small freakin hint…what has changed in the last 30 years?

Why did we not have these types of tragedies in the 80’s?
Why now?

We had them. Not as many, but still a lot.

You know when we had the fewest in recent history? When we had an assault weapons ban.

[tnt]

@Smyrna

If the gun used was his father’s, are the parents complicit?

yes.

1233445

[Smyrna]

I’m inclined to agree.

[Impenitent]

@Smyrna

Investigators said he was interviewed by law enforcement last year over online threats about committing a school shooting.

The FBI said local law enforcement had interviewed a 13-year-old subject and his father last year regarding online threats to commit a school shooting. Investigators said:

"The father stated he had hunting guns in the house, but the subject did not have unsupervised access to them. The subject denied making the threats online. Jackson County alerted local schools for continued monitoring of the subject."
Suspect identified in deadly Georgia high school shooting

If the gun used was his father’s, are the parents complicit?

why stop there? what about auto accidents in cars that belong to someone else?