Right that’s why i said in total not rate. Its densely populated areas suffered just as bad as blue states. You can no more trust people in Florida than you can in any other state.

Please keep us updated.

Oh, wow. I didn’t know anybody still did that.

Very true, but many of my issues with the left are the same as issues I have with the right. Too often their starting point begins with “the government ought to…”

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Which is funny, because in the captain chaos thread, a lot of cons are bent out of shape that the government didn’t do more

Reasonable point of inquiry.

Yep, it would be easy to say that the term conservative has no meaning and has been co-opted. I think the truth is that FDR won, and in all the years following the root thinking across all political trains of thought has changed and that government, not individual, action is the starting point for all but a handful of libertarians and anarchists.

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That is interesting. :+1:

One of only two.

Guesses on the other?

And over in the mask thread cons are telling us even the seat belt laws are govt over reach and they should just stay out of it.

It goes back to the civil war and reconstruction.

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All hope for a republic was lost at Appomattox as surely as Octavian winning the Roman civil war.

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Which is true.

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Many Libs in Cal think their electric cars do not run on fossil fuels. And laugh at the east coast gas problems. EV’s are in no way green! See lithium Mining!

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Did Biden mention shortage would get worse before it got better?

Nope. A good leader would.

DC…VA…MD. Hardest hit.

At least the elites are feeling the pain.

90 percent out in DC…WOW!!

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Racism. :man_shrugging:

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i’m in illinois. no gas problem here.

i guess red states are bad with energy management.

I thought that with the vaccine lottery.

DC elites should be stranded there by the mess they made.

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I highly doubt the elites are feeling the pain except by proxy.

Imagine having a dinner party scheduled for Saturday and the hired help can’t get there. :grimacing:

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