Funny How Things Come Full Circle-The Can of Worms Better Left Sealed

ohknow35 · 2023-09-08T03:31:00.960Z

Jezcoe:

It was the official policy of the US and the entire Western World for Shokin to be removed. That policy was in effect for months.

That is the one fact that has to be ignored for this stupid conspiracy theory to make any sense.

It’s really amazing the number of times you repeated this lie on this board.

Just The News

Europeans latest to provide evidence undercutting Joe Biden story about...

Biden's story has been that he threatened to withhold loan to Ukraine only because prosecutor Shokin was not meeting anti-corruption standards. His own State Dep't said otherwise, now evidence shows that the EU concluded Shokin had met ‘benchmarks’...

Even more ridiculous is that you probably still believe it and spread it around.

Jezcoe · 2023-09-08T04:51:39.957Z

ohknow35:

Jezcoe:

It was the official policy of the US and the entire Western World for Shokin to be removed. That policy was in effect for months.

That is the one fact that has to be ignored for this stupid conspiracy theory to make any sense.

It’s really amazing the number of times you repeated this lie on this board.

https://justthenews.com/accountability/russia-and-ukraine-scandals/eu-memo-directly-undercuts-joe-bidens-narrative-about

Even more ridiculous is that you probably still believe it and spread it around.

Remember when we found out that John Solomon secretly had the same lawyers as Dmitri Firtash and was laundering his propaganda into the right wing media without disclosing that?

Yeah… me too.

Why should I believe John Solomon’s cherry picked view of things?

The section that Solomon talks about is the establishment of the National Anti-Corruption Bureau… or NABU.

Shokin did not do this… Parliament did.

Going down a little bit… Solomon says that Nuland wrote a letter saying that they were impressed Shokin’s Progress… but when one actually looks at the letter it says that they are impressed with progress of "your government’ and that Shokin has the historic opportunity to “address the injustices of the past by vigorously investigating and prosecuting corruption cases”… it is a much different letter than what Solomon wants you to believe it is. It is a diplomatic letter that is pushing Shokin to do the right thing just a couple of months after the diamond prosecutor scandal came out.

Solomon thinks that his readers are too stupid to actually read the sources that he provides.

This would lead us to believe that Biden went rogue and everyone just simply went along with it.

It is nonsense.

ohknow35 · 2023-09-08T05:05:31.676Z

Jezcoe:

Remember when we found out that John Solomon secretly had the same lawyers as Dmitri Firtash and was laundering his propaganda into the right wing media without disclosing that?

Yeah… me too.

Sounds like you do still believe all of the lies. Shocking!

You can’t seem to get past your guided hate of firtash. The very same firtash who claims hunter biden personally helped him invest in what seems to be a corrupt slush fund.

Just The News

Early warning: Feds alerted to whistleblower concern over Hunter Biden...

Morgan Stanley whistleblower raised concerns to bank, federal regulators about “fraudulent” schemes, “suspicious” transactions.

But just keep screamming TRUMP! GUILIANI! FIRTASH!

All the lies are being laid bare and willing dupes just keep on closing their eyes and putting their fingers in their ears.

Can’t penetrate that programming.

Jezcoe · 2023-09-08T10:36:26.913Z

ohknow35:

Jezcoe:

Remember when we found out that John Solomon secretly had the same lawyers as Dmitri Firtash and was laundering his propaganda into the right wing media without disclosing that?

Yeah… me too.

Sounds like you do still believe all of the lies. Shocking!

You can’t seem to get past your guided hate of firtash. The very same firtash who claims hunter biden personally helped him invest in what seems to be a corrupt slush fund.

https://justthenews.com/accountability/political-ethics/whistleblower-concerns-about-hunter-biden-firms-first-surfaced

But just keep screamming TRUMP! GUILIANI! FIRTASH!

All the lies are being laid bare and willing dupes just keep on closing their eyes and putting their fingers in their ears.

Can’t penetrate that programming.

You keep dipping at that John Solomon well.

Why should I trust a guy who did not disclose the relationship he had with primary sources to his readers?

POLITICO

Lawyers for Ukrainian oligarch have another client: The columnist who pushed...

Conservative legal duo Joe diGenova and Victoria Toensing represent gas tycoon Dmitry Firtash as well as the writer John Solomon.

Camp · 2023-09-08T12:02:58.045Z

Shokin wasn’t talking back then.

Too bad. He may have been able to prevent the Russian invasion if he talked sooner.

New York Post – 25 Aug 23

Fired Ukraine prosecutor Viktor Shokin says he believes Bidens were bribed

Former Ukraine prosecutor general Viktor Shokin said in a new interview that he believes that President Biden and his son Hunter received bribes in exchange for forcing him out of office in early 2…

Truth always finds its way.

Jezcoe · 2023-09-08T12:04:14.637Z

Camp:

Shokin wasn’t talking back then.

Too bad. He may have been able to prevent the Russian invasion if he talked sooner.

Fired Ukraine prosecutor Viktor Shokin says he believes Bidens were bribed

Truth always finds its way.

Why should anyone believe what Viktor Shokin says?

Camp · 2023-09-08T12:06:56.984Z

Because everything Biden says is a lie and he tends to destroy everything he touches…for starters.

ohknow35 · 2023-09-08T12:10:49.106Z

Jezcoe:

Why should I trust a guy

You shouldn’t.

You should continue trusting people who spread the russian collusion, pee tape, quid pro quo, laptop is disinformation, 51 former intelligence officials, never discussed my son’s business dealings…people who are trying to lock up their political opponents.

To do anything else runs counter to all of your programming and might cause a short-circuit.

Carry on.

Jezcoe · 2023-09-08T12:48:57.989Z

ohknow35:

Jezcoe:

Why should I trust a guy

You shouldn’t.

You should continue trusting people who spread the russian collusion, pee tape, quid pro quo, laptop is disinformation, 51 former intelligence officials, never discussed my son’s business dealings…people who are trying to lock up their political opponents.

To do anything else runs counter to all of your programming and might cause a short-circuit.

Carry on.

I pointed out two instances where Solomon misrepresented what was in the source material he was reporting on.

So why should we believe him?

ohknow35 · 2023-09-08T12:49:38.188Z

Jezcoe:

I pointed out two instances where Solomon misrepresented what was in the source material he was reporting on.

So why should we believe him?

You shouldn’t.

Keep trusting the liars you trust.

Carry on.

Jezcoe · 2023-09-08T12:50:17.183Z

Camp:

Because everything Biden says is a lie and he tends to destroy everything he touches…for starters.

This is what Shokin says

I do not want to deal in unproven facts, but my firm personal conviction is that, yes, this was the case. They were being bribed

basically… I have no proof but I am going to say it anyway.

Why listen to this guy?

Jezcoe · 2023-09-08T12:54:50.007Z

ohknow35:

Jezcoe:

I pointed out two instances where Solomon misrepresented what was in the source material he was reporting on.

So why should we believe him?

You shouldn’t.

Keep trusting the liars you trust.

Carry on.

That is a pretty wild defense mechanism.

“Because I believe that you believe such and such that means that this person is correct”

Yeah… that logic tracks.

ohknow35 · 2023-09-08T13:17:13.581Z

Jezcoe:

That is a pretty wild defense mechanism.

“Because I believe that you believe such and such that means that this person is correct”

Yeah… that logic tracks.

russian collusion
pee tape
quid pro quo
laptop is disinformation
51 former intelligence officials
never discussed my son’s business dealings

Keep trusting your favorite liars.

Jezcoe · 2023-09-08T13:19:03.136Z

ohknow35:

Jezcoe:

That is a pretty wild defense mechanism.

“Because I believe that you believe such and such that means that this person is correct”

Yeah… that logic tracks.

russian collusion
pee tape
quid pro quo
laptop is disinformation
51 former intelligence officials
never discussed my son’s business dealings

Keep trusting your favorite liars.

So because of that… Solomon is right.

Makes sense.

ohknow35 · 2023-09-08T13:20:46.053Z

Jezcoe:

So because of that… Solomon is right.

Makes sense.

Coincidentally , the liars who perpetrated those lies were most of the same people lying again and again.

Yet you repeated those lies each time.

Keep trusting your favorite liars.

SixFoot · 2023-09-08T13:32:28.158Z

ohknow35:

It’s really amazing the number of times you repeated this lie on this board.

Or the sheer number of lies they all repeated as per their programming.

Jezcoe · 2023-09-08T13:47:07.031Z

ohknow35:

Jezcoe:

So because of that… Solomon is right.

Makes sense.

Coincidentally , the liars who perpetrated those lies were most of the same people lying again and again.

Yet you repeated those lies each time.

Keep trusting your favorite liars.

You see how Solomon’s version can’t stand on its own? It relies on people believing that the other side is wrong and therefore he is right.

Meanwhile he misrepresents the documents he is presenting and hiding from his audience his connections to a Putin supporting oligarch.

I fail to see why I should take him seriously

Piper · 2023-09-08T16:27:02.955Z

Jezcoe:

Why listen to this guy?

No Democrat would question Shokin because they already know Joe Biden was lying. The only thing he told the truth about that I know of is his story about Cornpop. Imagine that.

What was the purpose for sending the billion dollars to Ukraine?

Bill.in.PA · 2023-09-08T17:20:34.007Z

Shokin is not the only Ukrainian official to come forward with details about corruption linked to the Bidens.

The Grayzone - News and investigative journalism on empire – 13 Jul 23

Biden’s corruption led to Ukraine’s destruction: fmr. Kiev diplomat - The...

Former Ukrainian diplomat and political insider Andrii Telizhenko -- now under US sanctions on what he says are false grounds -- speaks out. Former Ukrainian government official and diplomat Andrii Telizhenko joins Aaron Maté to discuss how, in his...

Est. reading time: 64 minutes

The standard response from official Washington is always the same–punishment for whistleblowers, rewards for the guilty.

DougBH · 2023-09-08T19:57:37.772Z

Jezcoe:

Why should anyone believe what Viktor Shokin says?

You misspelled “Biden”.
In any case, the group of foreign policy experts who were supposed to make recommendations did say that Ukraine had made enough progress to receive loan guarantees. Withholding the loans was Biden policy, not American policy.