Funny How Things Come Full Circle-The Can of Worms Better Left Sealed

CanadianJudo · 2019-09-28T21:57:41.527Z

If you want to frame Biden for being corrupt you pick the wrong story, It seem old Trump has fallen for another baseless conspiracy similar to the birther nonsense he wasted millions of dollars on.

personal I’m glad Ukrainian President didn’t bend over and entertain this idea.

WildRose · 2019-09-28T21:58:10.456Z

Nobody is framing anyone here, Biden took care of that himself.

CanadianJudo · 2019-09-28T22:00:03.282Z

Tell that to Rudy Giuliani.

WildRose · 2019-09-28T22:00:28.477Z

I don’t see Rudy posting here.

STODR · 2019-09-28T23:27:12.447Z

One thing I learned from this is if you might have some legal problems, run for President. That way it is not okay to investigate, because you are a “Political Rival”.

LucyLou · 2019-09-28T23:31:10.541Z

Joe Biden literally has no legal problems.

CanadianJudo · 2019-09-28T23:31:44.291Z

neither Biden or Hunter have ever been under investigation in the Ukraine.

TommyLucchese · 2019-09-29T00:14:51.528Z

Maybe if you say the same three things another seventy posts, it will change.

ohknow35 · 2023-09-08T03:31:00.960Z

Jezcoe:

It was the official policy of the US and the entire Western World for Shokin to be removed. That policy was in effect for months.

That is the one fact that has to be ignored for this stupid conspiracy theory to make any sense.

It’s really amazing the number of times you repeated this lie on this board.

Just The News

Europeans latest to provide evidence undercutting Joe Biden story about...

Biden's story has been that he threatened to withhold loan to Ukraine only because prosecutor Shokin was not meeting anti-corruption standards. His own State Dep't said otherwise, now evidence shows that the EU concluded Shokin had met ‘benchmarks’...

Even more ridiculous is that you probably still believe it and spread it around.

Jezcoe · 2023-09-08T04:51:39.957Z

ohknow35:

Jezcoe:

It was the official policy of the US and the entire Western World for Shokin to be removed. That policy was in effect for months.

That is the one fact that has to be ignored for this stupid conspiracy theory to make any sense.

It’s really amazing the number of times you repeated this lie on this board.

https://justthenews.com/accountability/russia-and-ukraine-scandals/eu-memo-directly-undercuts-joe-bidens-narrative-about

Even more ridiculous is that you probably still believe it and spread it around.

Remember when we found out that John Solomon secretly had the same lawyers as Dmitri Firtash and was laundering his propaganda into the right wing media without disclosing that?

Yeah… me too.

Why should I believe John Solomon’s cherry picked view of things?

The section that Solomon talks about is the establishment of the National Anti-Corruption Bureau… or NABU.

Shokin did not do this… Parliament did.

Going down a little bit… Solomon says that Nuland wrote a letter saying that they were impressed Shokin’s Progress… but when one actually looks at the letter it says that they are impressed with progress of "your government’ and that Shokin has the historic opportunity to “address the injustices of the past by vigorously investigating and prosecuting corruption cases”… it is a much different letter than what Solomon wants you to believe it is. It is a diplomatic letter that is pushing Shokin to do the right thing just a couple of months after the diamond prosecutor scandal came out.

Solomon thinks that his readers are too stupid to actually read the sources that he provides.

This would lead us to believe that Biden went rogue and everyone just simply went along with it.

It is nonsense.

ohknow35 · 2023-09-08T05:05:31.676Z

Jezcoe:

Remember when we found out that John Solomon secretly had the same lawyers as Dmitri Firtash and was laundering his propaganda into the right wing media without disclosing that?

Yeah… me too.

Sounds like you do still believe all of the lies. Shocking!

You can’t seem to get past your guided hate of firtash. The very same firtash who claims hunter biden personally helped him invest in what seems to be a corrupt slush fund.

Just The News

Early warning: Feds alerted to whistleblower concern over Hunter Biden...

Morgan Stanley whistleblower raised concerns to bank, federal regulators about “fraudulent” schemes, “suspicious” transactions.

But just keep screamming TRUMP! GUILIANI! FIRTASH!

All the lies are being laid bare and willing dupes just keep on closing their eyes and putting their fingers in their ears.

Can’t penetrate that programming.

Jezcoe · 2023-09-08T10:36:26.913Z

ohknow35:

Jezcoe:

Remember when we found out that John Solomon secretly had the same lawyers as Dmitri Firtash and was laundering his propaganda into the right wing media without disclosing that?

Yeah… me too.

Sounds like you do still believe all of the lies. Shocking!

You can’t seem to get past your guided hate of firtash. The very same firtash who claims hunter biden personally helped him invest in what seems to be a corrupt slush fund.

https://justthenews.com/accountability/political-ethics/whistleblower-concerns-about-hunter-biden-firms-first-surfaced

But just keep screamming TRUMP! GUILIANI! FIRTASH!

All the lies are being laid bare and willing dupes just keep on closing their eyes and putting their fingers in their ears.

Can’t penetrate that programming.

You keep dipping at that John Solomon well.

Why should I trust a guy who did not disclose the relationship he had with primary sources to his readers?

POLITICO

Lawyers for Ukrainian oligarch have another client: The columnist who pushed...

Conservative legal duo Joe diGenova and Victoria Toensing represent gas tycoon Dmitry Firtash as well as the writer John Solomon.

Camp · 2023-09-08T12:02:58.045Z

Shokin wasn’t talking back then.

Too bad. He may have been able to prevent the Russian invasion if he talked sooner.

New York Post – 25 Aug 23

Fired Ukraine prosecutor Viktor Shokin says he believes Bidens were bribed

Former Ukraine prosecutor general Viktor Shokin said in a new interview that he believes that President Biden and his son Hunter received bribes in exchange for forcing him out of office in early 2…

Truth always finds its way.

Jezcoe · 2023-09-08T12:04:14.637Z

Camp:

Shokin wasn’t talking back then.

Too bad. He may have been able to prevent the Russian invasion if he talked sooner.

Fired Ukraine prosecutor Viktor Shokin says he believes Bidens were bribed

Truth always finds its way.

Why should anyone believe what Viktor Shokin says?

Camp · 2023-09-08T12:06:56.984Z

Because everything Biden says is a lie and he tends to destroy everything he touches…for starters.

ohknow35 · 2023-09-08T12:10:49.106Z

Jezcoe:

Why should I trust a guy

You shouldn’t.

You should continue trusting people who spread the russian collusion, pee tape, quid pro quo, laptop is disinformation, 51 former intelligence officials, never discussed my son’s business dealings…people who are trying to lock up their political opponents.

To do anything else runs counter to all of your programming and might cause a short-circuit.

Carry on.

Jezcoe · 2023-09-08T12:48:57.989Z

ohknow35:

Jezcoe:

Why should I trust a guy

You shouldn’t.

You should continue trusting people who spread the russian collusion, pee tape, quid pro quo, laptop is disinformation, 51 former intelligence officials, never discussed my son’s business dealings…people who are trying to lock up their political opponents.

To do anything else runs counter to all of your programming and might cause a short-circuit.

Carry on.

I pointed out two instances where Solomon misrepresented what was in the source material he was reporting on.

So why should we believe him?

ohknow35 · 2023-09-08T12:49:38.188Z

Jezcoe:

I pointed out two instances where Solomon misrepresented what was in the source material he was reporting on.

So why should we believe him?

You shouldn’t.

Keep trusting the liars you trust.

Carry on.

Jezcoe · 2023-09-08T12:50:17.183Z

Camp:

Because everything Biden says is a lie and he tends to destroy everything he touches…for starters.

This is what Shokin says

I do not want to deal in unproven facts, but my firm personal conviction is that, yes, this was the case. They were being bribed

basically… I have no proof but I am going to say it anyway.

Why listen to this guy?

Jezcoe · 2023-09-08T12:54:50.007Z

ohknow35:

Jezcoe:

I pointed out two instances where Solomon misrepresented what was in the source material he was reporting on.

So why should we believe him?

You shouldn’t.

Keep trusting the liars you trust.

Carry on.

That is a pretty wild defense mechanism.

“Because I believe that you believe such and such that means that this person is correct”

Yeah… that logic tracks.