Full General Michael Horowitz report is here

WuWei · 2018-06-15T12:12:59.783Z

I agree with the first.

No need to get personal.

dantes · 2018-06-15T12:14:26.251Z

WuWei:

No need to get personal.

Scolding people for getting personal with Conan?

Are you serious?

WuWei · 2018-06-15T12:15:28.482Z

Not his call.

dantes · 2018-06-15T12:17:16.805Z

He didn’t make the call alone. The investigation was done hand in hand with DoJ prosecutors who made their recommendation to the AG who has the final say.

Ben_Natuf · 2018-06-17T16:09:44.091Z

That would be entirely false. The source of Comey’s insubordination is the fact that he failed utterly to inform DoJ prosecutors ansd informed his team not to.

dantes · 2018-06-17T16:14:49.944Z

Only on the decision to announce. Comey was always going to make a recommendation with DoJ. The investigation was done all along with prosecutors who all agreed with the declination.

Ben_Natuf · 2018-06-17T16:50:21.046Z

Then you should have no problem siting from the report who these DoJ prosecutors were.

dantes · 2018-06-17T16:54:45.885Z

The IG report does not name them but references them extensively in the report.

Within the Department, the Midyear investigation was primarily handled by the Counterintelligence and Export Control Section (CES) of the National Security Division (NSD), with support from two prosecutors in the United States Attorney’s Office for the Eastern District of Virginia (EDVA). All of the prosecutors assigned to the Midyear team had significant experience handling national security investigations or white collar criminal cases.

Page 46.

Ben_Natuf · 2018-06-17T17:13:17.723Z

cool. So now the question would be about the recommendations of the two prosecutors, whether their politics are a mirror of Strokh and Page, and whether their biases affected their decisions. I know the report says there’s no evidence of it, but I would ask what would be evidentiary? How do you determine a persons state of mind when they make a decision? I honestly don’t think its possible. Especially when those decisions can be explained away and justified without determining state of mind. Much of the report seems to outline that when faced with method “A” or method “B” (either of which could be justified) they seemed to always choose whichever was the least damaging or intrusive even when the other option may have been more likely to elicit information.

CriticalBill · 2018-06-17T17:49:31.675Z

I think this thing is far from over and there is more to drop.

conan · 2018-06-17T18:01:22.846Z

I’m sure of it.

After reading the report this is devastating…and it really blows libs narratives that they been spreading for the last two years.

I think it’s only going to get worst unless they win in Nov and sweep it all under the rug.

And thus the reason for the stalling/delaying tactics the CoJ and FBI are doing.

LucyLou · 2018-06-17T18:18:47.754Z

conan:

After reading the report this is devastating

What is devastating?

conan · 2018-06-17T18:19:55.127Z

The corruption within top level of FBI.

Piper · 2018-06-17T20:11:18.967Z

Nunes mentioned last week that he thought they were trying to run the clock out, hoping that Democrats would take the Senate.

Did you watch this?

SottoVoce · 2018-06-17T22:13:00.836Z

conan:

The corruption within top level of FBI.

You must be reading a different report. Where does the report conclude that?

DougBH · 2018-06-18T01:45:15.683Z

Page statement about Hillary: She “might be our next president,…”

“[Trump’s] not ever going to become president, right? Right?!” Page texted Strzok.
“No. No he won’t. We’ll stop it,” Strzok responded.

IG conclusion: They can’t determine any decisions were made based on bias.

TheDoctorIsIn · 2018-06-18T01:49:26.002Z

Did they do anything inappropriate to “stop” Trump?

What did they do that was inappropriate, particularly in the context of Clinton’s email investigation?

DougBH · 2018-06-18T01:58:52.795Z

TheDoctorIsIn:

Did they do anything inappropriate to “stop” Trump?

What did they do that was inappropriate, particularly in the context of Clinton’s email investigation?

They made decisions daily. Why do judges recuse themselves? If all that is required is that they make it through a ruling without being overturned based on errors, they could go ahead and be judge over a matter that affected themselves. But they know that decisions had to be made based on judgement and if it were known that they had extreme biases the legitimacy of those decisions would be questioned.
Yes, apparently the IG is saying that they could find no unsupportable decisions based solely on bias. So why would the IG say this made the FBI look bad?
Many decisions go one way or the other in an investigation and even if both options may be supportable, the credibility of all those decisions is put to the test when bias is shown.

Plasmaball · 2018-06-18T02:02:49.678Z

so you have no evidence…You could have just said that and not wasted everyones time

Guntsu · 2018-06-18T02:06:09.450Z

What a crazy Sunday, dunno how this will end but things are definitely heating up.

The next round of indictments might be what blows the lid off this whole thing.