Fox News continues to betray Trump

[westaussie]

As an Aussie we have had universal health care since it was introduced by a centre-left Labor Party in the 1980s, I don’t understand why the Republicans would not have worked in a bi-partisan fashion with B Obama and the Democrats on the Affordable Care Act to provide the best health outcomes for their fellow Americans.

[Tangible08]

@Oldandtired

And if you change the word republican to democrat you have the same story.
There is no my side is better than your side. They are both in the sewer at this point in time
. And the media and people we send to DC no matter which side of the aisle they fall on preach the same hate day after day.
And the people on both sides of the aisle eat it up and night after night as they watch.

The “both sides” argument is overused. Democrats are far from perfect… I’d consider myself an independent or a reluctant de facto Democrat, as far as only siding with the Democrats because the other party is so contemptible. You don’t see a lot of Democrats pandering to bigotry, but it’s common on the right.

[peek-a-boo]

All you’ve given me is DEM spin on conservative politics. You have yet to point me to anything of substance that makes your point. Questioning my intelligence for disagreeing with you is par for the course and exactly what I would expect from you.

[peek-a-boo]

One only has to look at how quickly Obama got his administration nominees confirmed. Contrast that with what Schumer is doing to Trump’s nominees.

[westaussie]

Let me know how quickly B Obama’s nomination for the Supreme Court was confirmed?

[party-free]

Are you SURE you want to make this stand…just checking before I send a few links your way.

[party-free]

@peek-a-boo

One only has to look at how quickly Obama got his administration nominees confirmed.

Let’s begin with some very easy ones, going back to Obama’s first year as president:

Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, Nevada Democrat, has complained that Republicans “are simply so opposed to everything - absolutely everything - that they even oppose putting people in some of the most important positions in our government.”

Republicans argue they are standing on principle and using what power they have in the chamber to affect legislation and policy.

Quiet GOP tactic stalls top Obama appointments

Republicans were slow-walking/obstructing Obama nominees from the very beginning. It’s what they pledged to do before he ever took office.

Another pretty glaring example, Garland notwithstanding, would be the confirmation of Loretta Lynch. 160-something days on that one.

So peek, consider reevaluating this post and saving us all some time. Who stalled whose picks is not a winning argument for the GOP. GOP politicians have made total hypocrites of themselves over the last 2.5 years on the issue of nominees.

[Jezcoe]

@westaussie

As an Aussie we have had universal health care since it was introduced by a centre-left Labor Party in the 1980s, I don’t understand why the Republicans would not have worked in a bi-partisan fashion with B Obama and the Democrats on the Affordable Care Act to provide the best health outcomes for their fellow Americans.

They did work together. Many concessions were made to the ACA to water it down to make it palatable for the GOP but when it came up to the vote… they balked.

[Jezcoe]

@party-free

@peek-a-boo

One only has to look at how quickly Obama got his administration nominees confirmed.

Let’s begin with some very easy ones, going back to Obama’s first year as president:

Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, Nevada Democrat, has complained that Republicans “are simply so opposed to everything - absolutely everything - that they even oppose putting people in some of the most important positions in our government.”

Republicans argue they are standing on principle and using what power they have in the chamber to affect legislation and policy.

Quiet GOP tactic stalls top Obama appointments - Washington Times

Republicans were slow-walking/obstructing Obama nominees from the very beginning. It’s what they pledged to do before he ever took office.

Another pretty glaring example, Garland notwithstanding, would be the confirmation of Loretta Lynch. 160-something days on that one.

So peek, consider reevaluating this post and saving us all some time. Who stalled whose picks is not a winning argument for the GOP. GOP politicians have made total hypocrites of themselves over the last 2.5 years on the issue of nominees.

How about the ambassador nomination that was held up so long that she died?

https://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/282448-obama-nominee-died-after-waiting-two-years-for-confirmation

[party-free]

Of course. There’s a treasure-trove of material here that I’m sure will be parsed to hell and back, but easily refutes the following post:

@peek-a-boo

One only has to look at how quickly Obama got his administration nominees confirmed. Contrast that with what Schumer is doing to Trump’s nominees.

[Borgia_dude]

@peek-a-boo

One only has to look at how quickly Obama got his administration nominees confirmed. Contrast that with what Schumer is doing to Trump’s nominees.

Trump has gotten 66 judges confirmed this year. In his second year, Obama had gotten 49.

Trump has gotten 66 judges confirmed this year. In his second year, Obama had...

[CaughtInTheMiddle]

@Jezcoe

@westaussie

As an Aussie we have had universal health care since it was introduced by a centre-left Labor Party in the 1980s, I don’t understand why the Republicans would not have worked in a bi-partisan fashion with B Obama and the Democrats on the Affordable Care Act to provide the best health outcomes for their fellow Americans.

They did work together. Many concessions were made to the ACA to water it down to make it palatable for the GOP but when it came up to the vote… they balked.

all that stuff is forgotten. all that really matters is two things to a whole crap load of Trump voters (the far right).

[westaussie]

Thanks Jezcoe though I would argue “to water it down” does not really suggest that “the best possible health outcomes” was a motivating factor in that process.

[rolltide]

@CaughtInTheMiddle

all that stuff is forgotten. all that really matters is two things to a whole crap load of Trump voters (the far right).

Righties have conveniently short memories.

Dems tried repeatedly to work with the GOP on the ACA, but the GOP from day one of Obama was hellbent on stopping anything and everything Obama. It was highly irrational at the very least and downright racist on the other end.

Dems only pushed it through when it was very clear after repeated attempts, that the right was not going to participate AT ALL.

Amazing that righties forget all this.

[rolltide]

@westaussie

Let me know how quickly B Obama’s nomination for the Supreme Court was confirmed?

Trying to make any rational, fact-based argument with a rightie these days, especially a Trump supporter, is like trying to argue with a petulant 5 year-old.

Pointless.

[DougBH]

@rolltide

If lying is now obstructing, then Trump shouldn’t just be IN the prison, he should be UNDER it.

Trump fired Comey to end an investigation of Trump. Nobody can possibly be so stupid as to not see that’s obstruction.

Trump explicitly asked Comey if he, Trump, was a subject of the investigation before he fired Comey. Comey told him, and restated it under oath in Congress, that he was not a subject of he investigation.

[JayJay]

@DougBH

Already covered in other threads but suit yourself.

If you want to rely on Fox News analysts instead of the DOJ, you have that right.

Who did you rely on when Eric Holder was Attorney General?

The DOJ or talk media pundits?

[Jezcoe]

@westaussie

Thanks Jezcoe though I would argue “to water it down” does not really suggest that “the best possible health outcomes” was a motivating factor in that process.

Oh no… it wasn’t at all about the health outcomes… it was about protecting business as much as possible.

Even that the GOP couldn’t sign on to because they weren’t interested in making it work and offering solutions… they just want to win at the team sport of politics.

[BillBrown]

@madasheck

@DougBH

@Apocalypto

@DougBH

It is certainly attempted lying, if true. Lying to the media is not the same thing as lying to investigators.

I stopped reading after this. The rest was just Hillay! deflection.
Either way, thanks for your response.

No, not deflection. Its precedence. Comey knew that Hillary lied repeatedly about the emails but determined that this was not something over which a reasonable prosecutor would bring a case.

He never said she lied.

Rep. John Ratcliffe addressed Comey to summarize his remarks and confirm his July 2016 statement that though Clinton had mishandled and lied about emails, no criminal charges should be brought against her.

“Yep, I believed it then, I believe it now,” Comey said.

Comey says anyone who thinks the FBI favored Hillary Clinton in its emails...

[westaussie]

By the way how can Fox News continue to betray Trump? Isn’t it suppose to be a news organisation? Doesn’t that imply that Fox News should report news about Trump whether it is good news or bad news; surely Fox News doesn’t play favourites?