Fox deceptive on Eagles

dantes · 2018-06-10T21:57:23.987Z

Force may be a bit strong but it’s definitely coercive given you are demanding their obedience for money. You demand that they violate their conscience or you will refuse to watch them play football.

They are not deliberately making you mad. They have no desire or intention to make you mad. This isn’t about you.

MarkyS · 2018-06-10T21:58:04.604Z

MidwestIndy:

The NFL doesn’t exist without the players that produce the product and the consumers that pay for the product.

Currently they have more than enough consumers. They also have plenty of producers. Said producers aka players have not refused to person. Nor have consumers refused to consumer in point of fact have consumued to the point higher they have before.

The producers have simply used the platform to raise an issues not reduce their production. Are you willing to state that production in the NFL is down based on opinion?

You seem to have no concept of economic principals.

Jeezus.

This is DIRT SIMPLE.

One day, you LOSE a bunch of people who were your customers. Those people are NO LONGER your customers and you have NOT replaced them all with new customers.

The END RESULT must be that you will LOSE revenue that you would otherwise have gotten from the lost customers. There is simply NO WAY around that. You have lost potential profit.

Now, tell me again how the NFL is FINE with losing a bunch of paying customers - and THAT is why they made the new rule - cause it’s all just FINE.

M

MarkyS · 2018-06-10T22:00:16.204Z

dantes:

Force may be a bit strong but it’s definitely coercive given you are demanding their obedience for money. You demand that they violate their conscience or you will refuse to watch them play football.

They are not deliberately making you mad. They have no desire or intention to make you mad. This isn’t about you.

Nonsense.

They can exercise all the conscience they want to - just not on my dime. That’s not what I paid for AND they also know it offends me, to boot, but they do not factor that in at all.

WRONG PLACE. WRONG TIME.

M

sikofit · 2018-06-10T22:01:15.703Z

MarkyS:

One day, you LOSE a bunch of people who were your customers. Those people are NO LONGER your customers and you have NOT replaced them all with new customers.

YES it is DIRT SIMPLE but that hasn’t stopped you from getting it. The thing you keep ignoring is that disgruntled fans are being replaced otherwise revenue would be down and not breaking records.

sikofit · 2018-06-10T22:02:13.848Z

MarkyS:

They can exercise all the conscience they want to - just not on my dime. That’s not what I paid for AND they also know it offends me, to boot, but they do not factor that in at all.

You are no longer a fan so you aren’t paying for ANYTHING

MidwestIndy · 2018-06-10T22:06:44.548Z

They made the rule to make more money, its what businesses do. You do understand capitalism don’t to?

They don’t need you. You keep commenting here as if you matter. You don’t other than the fact the NFL wants your money but doesn’t need it. That isn’t any different than any other capitalistic business. Are you ever going to understand this?

dantes · 2018-06-10T22:07:53.635Z

Gotcha. You’d rather pay people to fake respect for the anthem than quietly not participate. Seems pretty hollow.

Yes, they know it pisses you off but that’s not why they’re doing it, which is why it’s not deliberate.

Seems to me the best solution is that you learn a little tolerance. That’s the American way. We don’t live in an authoritarian state.

kingarthur65 · 2018-06-10T22:23:20.336Z

What part of capitalism endorses the President of the US to pressure private business owners to make changes to their business or fire certain personnel?

bullseyelqcs · 2018-06-10T22:25:08.758Z

So then explain to the class why people like you get upset when citizens of cities protest in the streets about the injustice going on in those streets. Wouldnt that be the definition of this “right place, right time” mantra you keepbharling on? Sure, they may impact traffic for a while, but the point is so that it cant ignored any longer.

I again will direct you to the Boston Tea Party. Not only were they “in the face” of the British power (or as much as you can be with an ocean separating you), but they were even destructive of someone elses property…and yet somehow we call them patriots and heroes. Today, however, if someone pulled a stunt like that, you and lots like you would call them thugs and probably liberals.

MidwestIndy · 2018-06-10T22:29:28.004Z

None, good luck convincing trump supporters.

NuffSaid · 2018-06-11T16:02:23.971Z

Fox Sports just paid NFL $3.3B for 5 years for Thursday Night football ALONE! That is over $600M each year.

Ad Age – 12 Jul 17

NFL Teams Split Record $7.8 Billion in 2016, Up 10%

The NFL distributed a record $7.8 billion to its 32 teams in 2016, a jump of almost 10% that reflects the league's increasingly rich TV deals.

NFL is not hurting.

MarkyS · 2018-06-12T04:10:41.951Z

You do not know what you’re talking about.

You have never run a business in your life, have you?

M

MarkyS · 2018-06-12T04:12:00.309Z

There is nothing so funny as listening to a modern lefty preach tolerance.

Thanks for the laugh!

M

MidwestIndy · 2018-06-12T04:15:28.961Z

I have indeed, but you feel free to assume as much about me as you want.

MarkyS · 2018-06-12T04:15:42.656Z

bullseyelqcs:

So then explain to the class why people like you get upset when citizens of cities protest in the streets about the injustice going on in those streets. Wouldnt that be the definition of this “right place, right time” mantra you keepbharling on? Sure, they may impact traffic for a while, but the point is so that it cant ignored any longer.

Oh, Ihave ZERO problem with peaceful protests in the streets. ZERO.

It is when they set cars on fire and throw things at police and ruin the businesses of uninvolved and innocent parties and attack counter protesters with violence that I kinda have a problem with them.

If they just wanna march, they should have at it.

M

MarkyS · 2018-06-12T04:19:49.153Z

I have run MANY businesses and in business you NEVER accept less than you can possibly make unless you really don’t care about everyone who works with you and for you. You CERTAINLY do not alienate customers for no good reason when you do not need to.

The NFL changed the rule because they clearly agree with me - not you.

M

MidwestIndy · 2018-06-12T04:28:12.535Z

Any business seeks to maximize their profits. The NFL will do no different. You seem to think they are about your cause, they don’t, they simple want your money not because of what you believe. As long as you are good with being used, great they got you.

They didn’t change they policy because they agreed with you they did so to appease you. As long as you agree with that good for all parties involved. Nice job being manipulated. Best you can do is keep not watching. Have fun with that. You watch the other side wins like they wanted, you don’t don’t you accept your manipulation. Either way they still survive and you don’t get what you want. Welcome to lose lose dude.

MarkyS · 2018-06-12T05:17:35.753Z

MidwestIndy:

Any business seeks to maximize their profits. The NFL will do no different. You seem to think they are about your cause, they don’t, they simple want your money not because of what you believe. As long as you are good with being used, great they got you.

They didn’t change they policy because they agreed with you they did so to appease you. As long as you agree with that good for all parties involved. Nice job being manipulated. Best you can do is keep not watching. Have fun with that. You watch the other side wins like they wanted, you don’t don’t you accept your manipulation. Either way they still survive and you don’t get what you want. Welcome to lose lose dude.

I love it. You think they somehow got one over on me. They tricked me by agreeing with my stance that on-field protest is inappropriate! Those DEVILS!!

They changed their policy BECAUSE of people like me who left them due to their old policy.

But I’m the one being manipulated!

I have changed NOTHING since this all began and I left them. They have changed. THEY are the ones who were manipulated by pressure from owners who want to try to get me back.

M

reflechissez · 2018-06-12T05:19:22.862Z

MarkyS:

I have changed NOTHING since this all began and I left them. They have changed. THEY are the ones who were manipulated by pressure from owners who want to try to get me back.

So they did what you wanted them to do. Why are you still complaining?

MarkyS · 2018-06-12T06:25:24.141Z

I’m not complaining that they have decided to change the situation.

I’m bemoaning the rank stupidity of the players, who are really BAD at messaging, and the cowardice of the league that put all this into play because they wouldn’t make this decision until now.

They all ruined what was a pleasant diversion for me and so many others.

M