Former Philadelphia congressman pleads guilty to federal election fraud

“Myers admitted in court to colluding with the Judge of Elections for the 39th Ward, 36th Division in South Philadelphia, Domenick J. Demuro, in a fraudulent scheme over several years,” the Department of Justice said, “bribing Demuro to illegally add votes for certain candidates of their mutual political party in primary elections.”
The DOJ revealed that Myers would pay Demuro between $300 and $5,000 per election in return for adding fraudulent votes and later falsely certifying that the results given by the voting machines were accurate.

The plea involves one area of Philadelphia, so Pennsylvania Democrats will continue to say that no court has found evidence of widespread election fraud.

Of course by that logic, Russia has free and fair elections because no court has found evidence of widespread election fraud there either.


This case finally played out I see. :smile:

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These charges are for the period of 2014 to 2018 and it kind of shows that stuff like this gets caught.

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Yes, the case has involved earlier elections from 2018 and earlier. Is there any evidence that Philadelphia has removed the corruption? Or was Blogojevich right in his assessment in November 2020?

“If the question is, ‘Are Democrats stealing votes in Philadelphia?’” Blagojevich began, “my answer is, ‘Is the Pope Catholic?’ It’s a time-honored tradition in big, Democrat-controlled cities like Chicago and my hometown, Philadelphia, to do precisely what they’re doing.”

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Yeah. They caught the guy doing it.

Unless one wants to argue that him getting caught means that it wasn’t stopped.

Also good on trusting Blago with anything.

Why do people listen to him?

Yes, one speeding conviction means no one else speeds.

We know that Russia has free and fair elections, since no convictions equals no crimes. This excerpt from Radio Free Europe is just anti-Russian propaganda. The analysis parallels similar “baseless conspiracy theories” that were dismissed after the 2020 election in the US:

Shpilikin also estimated that nationwide turnout was likely 38 percent of voters, compared with the official figure of 52 percent . . .Among the biggest clouds hanging over the results is the new electronic voting system that was used in Moscow and six other locations this year. Election authorities billed the system as a way to help minimize the dangers of COVID-19, which has hit Russia hard . . . Electronic voting is “an absolute evil, a black box that no one controls,” Shpilkin wrote. “It is impossible to investigate a million votes piled up in one heap - you can analyze an array of numbers. But in the case of the results of electronic voting, we are shown only the results of several parties and one number on the turnout. There are simply not enough details for analysis,” he said. . . Experts have already identified several districts in Moscow where results are unusual, particularly compared with past election patterns; the release of early results on September 20 was postponed several times.


If you see one cockroach, there are a thousand more behind the wall.


If you want to live your life assuming that massive voter fraud is happening then there is nothing I can say that will change that.

Bringing forth examples of people getting caught for breaking election laws as examples of people not getting caught for breaking election laws doesn’t seem like that great of an argument imo

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Yes, we need to accept that Russia has free and fair elections and stop claiming it is not a democracy.

No court has ever found evidence of massive voter fraud in Russia.

Western propaganda simply repeats that same charges based on allegations of statistical abnormalities and the lack of transparency in the process.

Investigations and audits are not necessary to confirm the reported results. People are rarely convicted of fraud, so you have to assume they are honest. Clearly this description from Freedom House is just anti-Russian propaganda since many of the examples of alleged manipulation have been dismissed as serious issues in the US:

With loyalist security forces, a subservient judiciary, a controlled media environment, and a legislature consisting of a ruling party and pliable opposition factions, the Kremlin is able to manipulate elections and suppress genuine dissent. Rampant corruption facilitates shifting links among state officials and organized crime groups. . . The authorities make frequent changes to electoral laws and the timing of elections in order to secure advantages for their preferred candidates. Opposition candidates have little chance of success in appealing these decisions, or in securing a level playing field. In 2020, Putin signed a law permitting the use of electronic voting across Russia, raising concerns about the security and secrecy of ballots in the 2021 Duma polls and other future elections. Also that year, the president signed a law allowing a three-day voting period in future elections; critics argued that the expanded timeframe increased officials’ ability to manipulate electoral outcomes.
Russia: Freedom in the World 2022 Country Report | Freedom House

I don’t give a ■■■■ about Russian elections and to compare their elections to US elections… which are highly decentralized… is really really really dumb.

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Yes, 100% free and fair has to be the assumption. Demands for transparency, audits, and investigations only confuse the issue. Vocal critics only destroy faith in the system and must be punished.

Corruption that occurs in Russia and other countries cannot occur here since Americans are uniquely pure and virtuous. To say otherwise is a threat to democracy.


This is a really poor stance.

It shows a system and method does exist.

The old argument was that this never happened.

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What should Mr. Trump’s punishment be?


Sorry, that was far too perfect of a setup to pass up. :smile:

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Yes, following the Russian lead means that Trump should be sent a Siberian prison or poisoned with polonium for disparaging the integrity of our gloriously pure election system . . .

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alllllll a conspiracy

This is a very odd take.

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Alternatively, one speeding conviction doesn’t mean everybody else speeds.