JayJay
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There’s a blind eye being turned all right.
But it’s by supposed “small government conservatives” to an obvious CentGov overreach.
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But, but, those tyrannical protesters! Protesting! Amendment #1.
We need to silence them! Who to best silence them but the Federal Government! Hooray for the Federal Government!
WuWei
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Just can’t help yourself?
Your mistake, once again, is assuming. In this case assuming I am criticizing the insurgency by calling it what it is.
What, in all these years of me giving you classes, would lead you to that assumption?
Trying to backhand hypocrisy? Of me.
You know better.
So far along just a few years ago, too. It’s a shame really.
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Rahm Emanuel has always been that violence provoking tough guy. Never liked him at all.
WuWei
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What is the difference between “civil unrest” and “insurgency”?
tzu
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Border agents now three years into being okay overtly, just doing it proudly, caging people, in a country now seventeen years in to renditioning people. Plus, those CBP agents being indistinguishable from bugaloobois or Erik Prince’s murder for hire operators.
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Jezcoe
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Remember Jade Helm?
Yeah… that was crazy.
Oh… you mean now. What is happening now.
Never mind.
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WuWei
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If you’ve got something to say Jay, just say it.
Are you under the impression I approve of the police tactics in use by DHS? That would be a mistake.
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JayJay
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Was that post in response to you?
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WuWei
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Was it about me? Of course it was. Aren’t you and I a little old for “Who me?”
It is what it is.
There are self-proclaimed “conservatives” on this board who want government out of daily lives, but are all in favor of getting involved in Portland, when a majority of those are protesting peacefully and are expressing their 1A rights.
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WuWei
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Insurgency is the organized use of subversion and violence to seize, nullify, or challenge political control of a region.
I think we can all agree the current situation in several places, definitely Portland, meets the definition.
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tzu
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No. We can’t all agree. Protesting extra-judicial executions is not just like engaging in extra-judicial killings to force a government to fall.
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JayJay
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Look carefully at whose post it was to which I was responding.
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WuWei
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Yes, but were you going for clever?
I don’t answer for them. Government is not getting involved with peaceful protestors in Portland. Peaceful protestors are getting between rioters and police.
I do not approve of federal law enforcement taking one step off of federal property. If those ■■■■ bags want to burn Portland to the ground, less the federal facilities, they can have at it. Not one penny of federal money to rebuild it. Same with all the others.
I love a good protest. A good riot, some good ol’ civil unrest. I even love a good insurgency. I also love the crying when it stings back. The whole thing is great.
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JayJay
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Actually we can’t.
Until the feds showed up, that is.
Which is what I originally said.
There was nothing going on in Portland that even remotely could be called an insurgency…until the Feds showed up.
Seattle? Yeah you could have made a case there. Minneapolis? Sure.
Not Portland.
WuWei
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I guess we aren’t too old for “Who me!?” 
You blew my dog whistle.
WuWei
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Completely incorrect. Counter-insurgency does not an insurgency make. 60 straight days of insurgent activity to seize, nullify, or challenge political control of a region. And they have been at least somewhat successful. They have nullified the will to use local police and challenged political control of the city.
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JayJay
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You talking about the use of CentGov?
It wasn’t conscious…you can believe that or not.
If you’re against the use of the Feds in these cases, it might be nice if you said that more.
That would avoid lumping.
But whatever…I’m really addressing this towards the CEC which seems to be doing a good job with diehard Trump supporters to convince them use of big government force is appropriate here.