Ford has suffered $1 billion in lost profits from Trump tariffs

MichaelScarn · 2018-09-30T18:14:47.080Z

There’s the moral standard, the logical, rational standard. There’s the standard of consistency or hypocrisy. There’s the standard of common decency, which may or may not be the same thing as the moral standard.

Why do you think there’s only a legal standard?

Snow96 · 2018-09-30T18:18:49.994Z

So unrelated hoteliers in Hawaii made money off Obama vacationing there every year. Property owners in Martha’s vinyard made money off Obama vacationing there every year.

If the legal seperate entity (you know the corporation that owns the property) is charging just like they would anyone who stays at the property – no I don’t have issues with it.

Snow96 · 2018-09-30T18:19:53.359Z

How is them running it in Don’s best financial interest different than if it was a Blind trust executive running it Don’s best interest? Please give me perfectly clear, concise answers that would be verifiable.

Snow96 · 2018-09-30T18:22:32.948Z

Everyone has different moral standards. Example – I like to drink rum n coke with dinner a few times a week. I know people who think that’s immoral. Some don’t think it’s rational. Hypocrocy would be if I told someone who had a few drinks a week that they were immoral to do it.

There is NO set standard in what you are describing. You would have to find someone who critisized Bama for staying places and businesses charging the Secret Service and aids.

Regardless of what you think , The Don is NOT being treated differently than Carter was.

MichaelScarn · 2018-09-30T18:40:06.753Z

Well, unless you think that creating a scandal out of Carter’s peanut farm but turning a blind eye to Trump’s “global business empire” is being treated the same, you’re exactly right. There’s no difference between the way the two were treated. Then again Carter felt great shame and admitted committing “adultery of the heart” for looking at another woman besides his wife covetously. Whereas Trump openly brags of affairs while his wives recover from childbirth. I mean, there’s no way to judge the relative morality of these two men. None. Only the legal standard. There was one criminal indictment under Carter, so that is devastating. Trump has managed to keep his to a tame few dozen.

Borgia · 2018-09-30T19:04:21.522Z

bootz:

Seems like Ford should stop building factories in China and build a steel mill here? These poor multinationals.

Ford build a steel plant?!?! LoL! You don’t know the auto industry.

wonderingrover · 2018-09-30T19:06:32.528Z

Borgia_dude_dude:

bootz:

Seems like Ford should stop building factories in China and build a steel mill here? These poor multinationals.

Ford build a steel plant?!?! LoL! You don’t know the auto industry.

I don’t know - maybe he’s on to something. Maybe they could start building bakeries. After all, people are more likely to buy a car if you give them freshly baked cookies.

bootz · 2018-09-30T19:16:23.317Z

they could do it for less than a billion,

bootz · 2018-09-30T19:16:45.865Z

spoken like Cortez, well stated

Borgia · 2018-09-30T19:24:18.070Z

bootz:

they could do it for less than a billion,

So? Why would Ford do something so stupid?

MichaelScarn · 2018-09-30T19:25:02.161Z

It’s nice to see that you guys have lined up your next generation of bogeymen.

bootz · 2018-09-30T19:53:00.701Z

to control the cost of their steel, pretty simple.

That is the idea of the tariffs to encourage steel production here.

bootz · 2018-09-30T19:53:35.437Z

she is a woman, keep up.

MichaelScarn · 2018-09-30T19:54:54.186Z

bootz:

she is a woman, keep up.

how progressive of you. Do you embrace the new culture of gender fluidity, feminism and equality?

bootz · 2018-09-30T20:03:41.156Z

I find gender fluidity to be in conflict with all that is natural. in other words it is a human creation of nefarious purpose. I do not embrace or oppose it, it simply is.

I do find it comical that so many groups do not want to identify as individuals and instead accept social programming.

MichaelScarn · 2018-09-30T20:05:56.211Z

so you don’t love change.

tnt · 2018-09-30T20:10:38.149Z

Trump just said he fell in love with Kim Jung un - a man who recently had an american trotured and killed.

And conservative media says nothing about it.

You think he’s being treated the same as carter and obama?

wonderingrover · 2018-09-30T20:29:02.268Z

tnt:

Trump just said he fell in love with Kim Jung un - a man who recently had an american trotured and killed.

And conservative media says nothing about it.

You think he’s being treated the same as carter and obama?

Trump only loves the best and the brightest.

Borgia · 2018-09-30T20:49:14.765Z

bootz:

to control the cost of their steel, pretty simple.

That is the idea of the tariffs to encourage steel production here.

Oh, I understand what you’re thinking. But steel doesn’t scale small very well. Costs would be way too high. Plus you’re asking Ford to suddenly become experts in steel manufacture. It isn’t easy.

MichaelScarn · 2018-09-30T20:54:33.569Z

Borgia_dude_dude:

Oh, I understand what you’re thinking. But steel doesn’t scale small very well. Costs would be way too high. Plus you’re asking Ford to suddenly become experts in steel manufacture. It isn’t easy.

vertical integration. why doesn’t everyone do it??!!?!

oh, it’s hard.