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74 would roast me in the winter.

64 would be about right.

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Which is why there needs to be the infrastructure built out.

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So every person has a charger at every location?

Meanwhile the ICE crowd goes in and out and has time to buy lottery tickets and big gulps.

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Now we are getting into contrarian for the sake of being contrarian.

I love this part.

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Don’t have to replace it.

Personally, I want to buy an EV in the next five years while keeping a few combustion vehicles. The EV would be my daily driver since it’s cheaper to operate on a daily basis, especially once they are mass produced on the same level as petrol cars and insurance companies stop marking up their rates. Plus the price for 300 mile rates batteries in the heat will be much cheaper by then.

There are certain tasks an EV wouldn’t do well in. For example, the jobs I use my Yukon XL for. EVs don’t tow heavy loads very well long distance. Because towing cuts into your range significantly worse than temperature variations.

My perfect future garage is an EV for daily travel and making short to medium length trips. A working truck or full size SUV for when I need to tow. And a classic sporty petrol car with a manual transmission. The EV in my example would replace the newish Sedan I almost always own. The other two vehicles aren’t good daily drivers anyway.

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You are not considering the scale up of a system that used to take 2 or 3 minutes to one that will take 15 to 20 minutes per vehicle.

I hate to wait…not complicated…nobody likes to wait.

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You know how gas stations have more than one pump?

People still wait to use those.

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They don’t. They use electric heaters to heat both the battery pack and the cabin.

It’s extremely inefficient.

But the beauty of electric heat is that it allows to precondition the EV when it’s plugged into your house’s power. Preconditioning doesn’t cost much extra power draw and you avoid having the battery pack do all the work.

And for a daily commute, that works fine, since you’ll retain the heat. Unless you have a crazy long daily commute.

Another thing is that seat heaters draw very little power. Normally on a Tesla, once you’ve unplugged the car and on your way it’ll kick the cabin heat into an efficiency mode and just run the seat heaters.

That’s pretty much how I drive my Civic in the winter. I run the heat for a little bit and then let the seat heaters do all the work, since I’m the kind of person who gets hot easily in a confined space. I run the heater just long enough to warm the cabin. Then the seat heaters get set to medium and that will suffice me for a multi hour drive.

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Another thing about an EV. If you’re solely relying on fast chargers to power your car, you’re making a huge mistake financially speaking.

If you own your property, you install a level two charger. Most kits cost about 900-1800 bucks depending on if you need a separate connection from your power company or not. But if your house is reasonably modern, you should have the amperage to spare.

You charge it at home overnight like you charge your phone.

That’s how you make an EV fit into your lifestyle. If you rely solely on public charging, you’re wasting money and will not be satisfied.

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And why they chose to put it into two of the reddest states you could find?
Chance?

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No UAW to deal with.

I’m pro union, but the UAW is pretty awful. No one wants to deal with them.

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Now imagine in each of those pumps, the people in front of you took 20 minutes for a refill.
Not so much of a problem if you only drive in the city and own your own house and can recharge overnight.
Otherwise…

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I’m happy for Kentucky, the miners need the help.

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Wow… .it is like there is a need to build out an infrastructure or something.

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I read that the new plants will be able to vote to unionize if they choose.

The NYT article claims at least some of the new jobs will be union.

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Not with tax money.

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Electric outlets are not a new technology.

When the demand grows, so too will the options. This is best served synchronously IMO.

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It’s a right to work state, so there’s always a vote.

The Canton MS Nissan plant was approached by the UAW a few years back. They held a vote. The workers voted about 70-30 to remain non union.

That says a lot about people perceptions of the UAW when even the plant workers don’t want them.

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This is one of those things where the infrastructure has to be there to fuel (pun intended) the demand.

Without an urban charging infrastructure, the demand will never happen.

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I would encourage tax breaks for corps to build it out.

It would create a lot of multi year jobs.

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