Forcing Socialism upon the American people

[Jezcoe]

Cool story.

[WuWei]

Come on man.

[Konssurvative1]

yeah…Trump is cool??

[Phaedrus]

@Optrader

@Phaedrus

@Optrader

In this case though, I believe he hasn’t done anything impeachable, let alone commit an actual crime.

Okay, let’s stick to crimes.

• What part of paying hush money to conceal an affair days before an election is not illegal? Because he didn’t do it to influence the election, but to protect his sterling reputation as a faithful husband? Okay.
• What part of charging well-above-market rates to foreign dignitaries or American business interests who stay at his Washington DC hotel is not illegal? Because they didn’t write “for unnamed favors” in the memo field of the check? Okay.
• What part of attesting the value of the Seven Springs property at $20M for tax purposes, and $291M for purposes of obtaining a loan, is not illegal? Rounding error? Okay.

We can do this all day.

There is a difference between illegal and immoral. Sex outside of marriage is immoral, but not illegal, even if it is with a porn star. How then can paying hush money to hide a non crime be a crime? If Trumps sexual past is a crime worthy of jail, maybe we could put Bill Clinton in the same cell.

Don’t know that price gouging his hotel guests has been proven, but if pay for play bothers you why did the Clintons get to rent out the Lincoln bedroom and run a money laundering foundation in their own name?
Yes, we can play this game all day.

Politicians lie, cheat and steal. Everyone says they hate it but it seems that it is a requirement for candidates for high office. I’d prefer a morally upright candidate on the ballot, but so far, Jesus hasn’t decided to run. Until then I’ll vote for conservative dirt bags over liberal dirt bags…

I do notice that you completely ignored the most straightforward evidence of bank/tax fraud. Mueller already has all of Cohen’s records. If that was something Mueller was cool with Cohen giving to Congress, WHAT ELSE HAS HE GOT?

[mobulis]

@FreeAndClear

Are regulations socialists. If we don’t adhere to the strict definition of socialism as a system of total control, is government involvement in the “free market” socialism? I believe that it is. I also believe that it is fraught with peril BUT i believe it to be necessary because an unregulated market is a terrible thing to behold.

Except your belief is wrong.

[theduke]

@FloridaYankee

@theduke

Since dems really aren’t pushing true socialism, ideas like ‘‘Regulatory ownership’’ will become the new false prophet of the 18th century constitutionalist. When you look around and see no one is really advocating the social ownership of the means of production and workers’ self-management. All they have left is the creation of ‘‘Regulatory ownership’’ straw men.

That ain’t no strawman, it is something we must be wary of, even if it is not upon us. The founders would agree I’ve no doubt.

No, it is a strawman. It’s a made-up issue because there is no real issue.

And stop putting words in the mouths in a bunch of long dead 18th century dudes.

[mobulis]

@WuWei

I disagree. It was socialism by regulation.

Nope, no ownership no socialism.

[FreeAndClear]

Why or How?

[mobulis]

@FreeAndClear

Why or How?

Because govt just involvement in the free market is not socialism.

[Optrader]

@Phaedrus

@Optrader

@Phaedrus

@Optrader

In this case though, I believe he hasn’t done anything impeachable, let alone commit an actual crime.

Okay, let’s stick to crimes.

• What part of paying hush money to conceal an affair days before an election is not illegal? Because he didn’t do it to influence the election, but to protect his sterling reputation as a faithful husband? Okay.
• What part of charging well-above-market rates to foreign dignitaries or American business interests who stay at his Washington DC hotel is not illegal? Because they didn’t write “for unnamed favors” in the memo field of the check? Okay.
• What part of attesting the value of the Seven Springs property at $20M for tax purposes, and $291M for purposes of obtaining a loan, is not illegal? Rounding error? Okay.

We can do this all day.

There is a difference between illegal and immoral. Sex outside of marriage is immoral, but not illegal, even if it is with a porn star. How then can paying hush money to hide a non crime be a crime? If Trumps sexual past is a crime worthy of jail, maybe we could put Bill Clinton in the same cell.

Don’t know that price gouging his hotel guests has been proven, but if pay for play bothers you why did the Clintons get to rent out the Lincoln bedroom and run a money laundering foundation in their own name?
Yes, we can play this game all day.

Politicians lie, cheat and steal. Everyone says they hate it but it seems that it is a requirement for candidates for high office. I’d prefer a morally upright candidate on the ballot, but so far, Jesus hasn’t decided to run. Until then I’ll vote for conservative dirt bags over liberal dirt bags…

I do notice that you completely ignored the most straightforward evidence of bank/tax fraud. Mueller already has all of Cohen’s records. If that was something Mueller was cool with Cohen giving to Congress, WHAT ELSE HAS HE GOT?

If Mueller had anything criminal, he wouldn’t have sat on it for 2 years. Keep your dream alive as long as you can though, it will soon become your nightmare when it sinks in Trump really won and he’s going to be around awhile…

[FreeAndClear]

Why not?

[FreeAndClear]

You guys with your conclusions. Do you think that like may be we don’t like have like the shortest memories ever?

[mobulis]

@FreeAndClear

Why not?

The military buys its weapons using the free market, is that socialism?

[theduke]

@mobulis

@FreeAndClear

Why not?

The military buys its weapons using the free market, is that socialism?

[WuWei]

No it doesn’t.

[Forcefield]

@BlueTex

And when a tree falls on you?

Or youre born with no arms …

[Forcefield]

@Optrader

If Mueller had anything criminal, he wouldn’t have sat on it for 2 years

That’s not ever how this works.

[WuWei]

That’s because it’s almost always political.

[Forcefield]

@WuWei

That’s because it’s almost always political

When an investigation is being done on someone you don’t run and arrest them as soon as you find something. You build a case.

[mobulis]

@WuWei

No it doesn’t.

Company’s don’t bid for military contracts?