I specifically referenced the “shooting your neighbor” part.
That not an abortion, that’s birth.
WuWei
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That wasn’t for you either.
However, since you want to be the spokesman, where’s your line?
Is it? The zygote is still in the birth canal.
Are you familiar with the concept of a message board?
I’m ok with viability. Or even the point of first gaining “conscious experience”.
Viability will change with science, eventually leading to lab grown fetuses.
When a baby is crowning, that is giving birth. Even if it is a still birth.
WuWei
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Sure. Do you have a womb? What did @LucyLou say yesterday?
Does your “ok” matter? Is it her body or yours? Is the baby still draining from her body? Until when?
Is it? Is the zygote clump of cells still inside her body?
I know! We’ll use cutting the umbilical cord! The severing of the physical connection!
STODR
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I know, I gave two examples, what is your opinion on the other? Does shoplifting laws impede on a born human? Traffic laws? Fraud laws? Fraud laws with no victem?
WuWei
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Just out of curiosity, how do you rationalize Public Law 108-212?
No, do you have a womb?
You asked me a specific question and I answered.
WuWei
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Nope. Are you assuming I support a prohibition on abortion?
And I asked 4 specific questions in response.
Shoplifting doesn’t have a direct impact on personal freedom.
One could argue it may impact indirectly.
I’m assuming nothing. But you are talking about it and you don’t have a womb.
STODR
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Stopping them from shoplifting does impact their freedom?
No, I’m not sure where you are going with this…
STODR
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really if someone wants to shoplift? stopping them is not imposing on their freedom? What about taking their drivers license away because they speed? How stopping someone from commiting fraud with no victims?
Perhaps you should figure that out prior to jumping in. It is pretty self explanatory.
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I only jumped in on one example you posed. But in order for you to win you had to point me towards your other example.