Follow the science! University bans unvaccinated student from on-line classes

[JayJay]

@DisturbedGuy

@WuWei

@Sknyluv

@Bill.in.PA

The student has the right to make his own medical decisions. Whether he is vaccinated or not is irrelevant since he is not going to be around other students.

The state-supported school is violating his civil rights.

The University has the right to require vaccinations as a requirement for enrollment. They decided that applies to online students as well. The student in question wasn’t vaccinated and did not qualify for a waiver. He is now transferring.

You’re serious.

I’m gonna say this is a prime example of why zero tolerance policies suck. Sometimes, you just can’t fix stupid.

Zero tolerance policies do suck.

That doesn’t mean they can’t be enacted.

[Bill.in.PA]

If there is an on-campus ban on smoking, can they apply the rule to students who never come to the campus?

What interest does the university have in enforcing that?

[tnt]

@Bill.in.PA

If there is an on-campus ban on smoking, can they apply the rule to students who never come to the campus?

What interest does the university have in enforcing that?

no, that wouldn’t happen. I explained what I meant. And it wasn’t that.

[tnt]

@tnt

perhaps they are concerned about this student going clubs or teams or participating in in person campus events.

Since they have a vaccine requirement, it follows they would not have to check vaccination status at those events, and therefore, this student would be able to participate in them without being vaccinated.

I suspect this is the logic behind this decision.

[DougBH]

That could be covered by a rule that virtual students who are not vaccinated cannot attend off campus school activities.
In fact, I cant think of any problem that this could cause that couldn’t be cured with a less restrictive rule. To me it sounds like an overreach of someone putting their own standards where they don’t belong and likely an invasion of privacy.

There are limits.

https://www.njsba.org/news-publications/school-leader/november-december-2019-vol-50-no-3/it-didnt-happen-in-school-but-can-we-discipline/

[Roxiebelle]

@Bill.in.PA

The state-supported school is violating his civil rights.

It’s called discrimination and that is against Federal law. Can you say lawsuit?

[Sknyluv]

Here. I’ve come up with a solution for everyone here.

Don’t enroll at Rutgers.

There. Problem solved. Everyone happy?

[tnt]

@DougBH

That could be covered by a rule that virtual students who are not vaccinated cannot attend off campus school activities.
In fact, I cant think of any problem that this could cause that couldn’t be cured with a less restrictive rule. To me it sounds like an overreach of someone putting their own standards where they don’t belong and likely an invasion of privacy.

There are limits.

Yeah it could be.

But that would then require checking people in to campus events and cross referencing them against the vaccine data base - another step to getting people in.

Since everyone on campus must be vaccinated, just take tickets at the door, or whatever…no need to check everyone’s ID and cross reference with the database.

[tnt]

@Roxiebelle

It’s called discrimination and that is against Federal law. Can you say lawsuit?

happens all the time. Try to attend any school without your MMR vaccine.

[westaussie]

Exactly what civil right would that be?

[DisturbedGuy]

@JayJay

@DisturbedGuy

@WuWei

@Sknyluv

@Bill.in.PA

The student has the right to make his own medical decisions. Whether he is vaccinated or not is irrelevant since he is not going to be around other students.

The state-supported school is violating his civil rights.

The University has the right to require vaccinations as a requirement for enrollment. They decided that applies to online students as well. The student in question wasn’t vaccinated and did not qualify for a waiver. He is now transferring.

You’re serious.

I’m gonna say this is a prime example of why zero tolerance policies suck. Sometimes, you just can’t fix stupid.

Zero tolerance policies do suck.

That doesn’t mean they can’t be enacted.

I agree…they can implement any policy they choose. Seems like this one was a bit short sighted though.

[Roxiebelle]

@tnt

happens all the time. Try to attend any school without your MMR vaccine.

Yeah no kidding… as they should! My kids and grandkids all have gotten the MMR vaccine it’s been around for decades and we have almost eliminated mumps, measles & rubella in this country although the Dems immigration/voting scam has reintroduced them back into the USA.

There is no comparison between the two vaccines. Covid19 vaccine is comparable to the seasonal flu shot and no one is discriminated against if they don’t get a flu shot.

[Tom_Ch]

@Bill.in.PA

Yes, many state-supported universities are prime examples of proclaiming “tolerance” until they disagree with your opinions or your lifestyle. Then they want to beat you into submission.

The vaccine requirement is tremendous stretch even for in-person classes. There is no evidence that the unvaccinated students pose a significantly greater threat of transmitting the virus than vaccinated students.

Applying the rule to online classes is absurd.

Not at all. The student is free to go to other school.

I hear liberty university is very open to non vax people.

[Tom_Ch]

@Bill.in.PA

What compelling interest does the state-supported school have in requiring a vaccine for online students?

Are they worried about the virus leaking through the wi-fi?

It is like banning smoking on campus and then claiming that the rule applies to online students who are never even on the campus.

Eventually they will stop online classes and he has to attend in person. Then what?

There are schools that are all online. He should go for those. Rutgers is not a fit for him.

[Supreme_War_Pig]

@tnt

@tnt

perhaps they are concerned about this student going clubs or teams or participating in in person campus events.

Since they have a vaccine requirement, it follows they would not have to check vaccination status at those events, and therefore, this student would be able to participate in them without being vaccinated.

I suspect this is the logic behind this decision.

Me too.

[FlameHeart]

I mean…yeah that is a good solution. They probably get income from their polls, and other things, too.

[GrandWazoo]

@Bill.in.PA

The state-supported school is violating his civil rights.

I worked at a state university. And I can guarantee you that before they enacted this rule it was reviewed by one or more lawyers who made sure that they were completely within their rights.

[GrandWazoo]

@Bill.in.PA

Are they worried about the virus leaking through the wi-fi?

They might be worried that he could meet with other students off campus. And if he infected them, they would go to campus and pass it around.

[RTchoke]

@GrandWazoo

@Bill.in.PA

Are they worried about the virus leaking through the wi-fi?

They might be worried that he could meet with other students off campus. And if he infected them, they would go to campus and pass it around.

He could do that even if he wasn’t a student. Or in your world are the students not allowed to fraternize with anyone who isn’t a student?

[GrandWazoo]

@RTchoke

He could do that even if he wasn’t a student. Or in your world are the students not allowed to fraternize with anyone who isn’t a student?

What are you talking about “in my world”? Is that a brand? Label? What is “my world”?