Huh? Did you think Conan’s comment about publicly hanging him to make an example was serious?
I’d suggest you stop ■■■■■■■■ on an awesome genre of fiction and realize its okay to reference pop culture when discussing reality.
rp5x5
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" 1984, is a dystopian novel published in 1949 by English author George Orwell. The novel is set in Airstrip One, formerly Great Britain, a province of the superstate Oceania, whose residents are victims of perpetual war, omnipresent government …"
It’s not rocket ships and space exploration or any actual “science” topic. It’s a future history dystopian novel and hard Sci-fi is science related.
DMK
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So now you are blaming @conan for your post? BTW, it is polite to let someone know they are talking about you.
We have 19 dead children and a 10 year old whose life is likely ruined. Yet here you are saying it is okay to draw parallels with Vulcans from a sci-fi movie, pop culture.
Good grief. 
Don’t worry Turtle. Some of us got it👍
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Rocket ships and space exploration are not sci-fi prerequisites. Keep in mind the book was written in 1949. It has future tech in it relative to when it was written.
“Future history dystopia” is generally considered sci-fi.
I never claimed it was hard sci-fi. That’s a subgenre of sci-fi.
rp5x5
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get off it. 1984 is a political future history novel. Did you ever read it? Star Trek is a Sci-fi fantasy and a “Vulcan” having no emotion has nothing to do with anything in this thread.
Your argument is not “logical”
Safiel
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I don’t see any issue with using sci-fi as an example.
It has been frequently used as a vehicle of social and political commentary.
Refer to the Star Trek Original Series episode “Let This Be Your Last Battlefield.”
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WuWei
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Progs turned it into a blueprint. Atlas Shrugged too.
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WuWei
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Agreed. And Dave Chappell is a philosopher.
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No, I’m blaming you for raising a stink over something as inconsequential as a reference to a pop-culture fictional alien race.
Not to mention the irony of you getting emotional that I used a pop culture reference in a serious discussion as a response to you accusing me of having an emotional response to this tragedy.
And again I will remind you that you are accusing me of not being serious enough when the post I initially responded to was written in jest.
But suggesting in jest that we publicly hang a 10 year old is okay? Where’s your post yelling at him for that?
There’s nothing wrong with referencing pop-culture when talking about serious topics. And I would hardly call my reference “drawing parallels”. It was merely a shorthand way of saying I can’t suppress my emotions when talking about dead children.
1984 spans multiple genres, one of which is sci-fi. Future history, unless its near future, is generally considered sci-fi. The fact that you are arguing about this is odd as I always was of the belief that this was common knowledge.
Did you ever read it?
Yes. Saw the movie too.
It has nothing to do with the OP or the shooting. For most of us who are aware that Vulcans are known for their suppression of emotion, its a perfectly reasonable reference to make when replying to someone accusing you of bringing emotions into the topic.
My argument is perfectly logical. But feel free to try and prove me wrong.
Vulcans = a fictional alien race who suppress their emotions.
@DMK wrote:
“Meh. Here goes the emotions. Protect all ten year olds!”
I responded with:
“I have a 10 year old daughter, its hard to [go Vulcan] on this one.”
Which, given the definition of a Vulcan, could also be written as:
“I have a 10 year old daughter, its hard to [behave as a person who is able to suppress their emotions] on this one.”
How is that not logical?
Vulcans are able to resist the urge to throw tantrums. 
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Safiel:
I don’t see any issue with using sci-fi as an example.
It has been frequently used as a vehicle of social and political commentary.
Refer to the Star Trek Original Series episode “Let This Be Your Last Battlefield.”
Heh. Had to look up which one that was.
That’s a bit much.
I’d agree with social commentator, though
Guvnah
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fallenturtle:
“I have a 10 year old daughter, its hard to [go Vulcan] on this one.”
Which, given the definition of a Vulcan, could also be written as:
“I have a 10 year old daughter, its hard to [behave as a person who is able to suppress their emotions] on this one.”
Huh. I haven’t been getting wrapped up in the rathole (that really is inconsequential to the thread), but when I saw the “go Vulcan” phrase, I initially took it to mean reading her mind. Vulcan Mind Meld. I mean, that’s what it takes sometimes to understand what’s going through a kid’s mind.
But either Vulcan reference is, in my opinion, a reasonable thing to use in a discussion about 10-year-olds. 
Add “Brave New World” to that required reading list as well.
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WuWei
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I know another philosopher when I see one.

EternalVigilance:
Brave New World
My favorite FF6 mod of all time.
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…you fancy yourself a philosopher?! 
Awesome.
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