Fewer and fewer Americans want anything to do with serving in the military

[Samm]

@Zander

It’s a really interesting thought experiment to think, hypothetically, what we would be like as a country if we had instituted mandatory service after world war 2 and maintained it up until now. I honestly don’t know whether the overall impact would be good or bad. I can see pros and cons.

The age 18-24 demographic is 12-13% of the over age 18 population. Do the math. Do we need that many Americans in uniform except during a major world war?

[YOSUP]

@Samm

@Zander

It’s a really interesting thought experiment to think, hypothetically, what we would be like as a country if we had instituted mandatory service after world war 2 and maintained it up until now. I honestly don’t know whether the overall impact would be good or bad. I can see pros and cons.

The age 18-24 demographic is 12-13% of the population. Do the math. Do we need that many Americans in uniform except during a major world war?

It’s not about numbers it’s about who’s in office. Enlistment dropped from Obama to Trump and increased under Trump and now is declining under Biden. There are trends. No one wants to put their life on the line for someone who hates America and wants to fundamentally change it.

[Samm]

@YOSUP

@Samm

@Zander

It’s a really interesting thought experiment to think, hypothetically, what we would be like as a country if we had instituted mandatory service after world war 2 and maintained it up until now. I honestly don’t know whether the overall impact would be good or bad. I can see pros and cons.

The age 18-24 demographic is 12-13% of the population. Do the math. Do we need that many Americans in uniform except during a major world war?

It’s not about numbers it’s about who’s in office. Enlistment dropped from Obama to Trump and increased under Trump and now is declining under Biden. There are trends. No one wants to put their life on the line for someone who hates America and wants to fundamentally change it.

It is about numbers. That number is over 30 million. Do we need that many Americans in uniform?

[Zander]

Exactly. Think of all the talent and innovation opportunities wasted by devoting so many human resources to that, at arguably their prime years for starting to do big things.

Can you imagine Bill Gates tied up in Military service in his early 20s?

[Impenitent]

@Zander

It’s a really interesting thought experiment to think, hypothetically, what we would be like as a country if we had instituted mandatory service after world war 2 and maintained it up until now. I honestly don’t know whether the overall impact would be good or bad. I can see pros and cons.

how would have Korea and Vietnam turned out if we had had a few million more troops “in country”?

of course, there are very few hippies in military uniform

[johnrandolph]

Vietnam? The first US death was too many for that silly project.
As for Korea, the Chinese had relatively unlimited manpower to keep killing as many US troops as we could send. Ike was right to end it.

[Eagle-Keeper]

@zantax

@Samm

So what are you saying? That white people might not want to fight for this country?

Seems fairly evident that is the case from recruitment shortfalls.

Virtually NO ONE of this generation - white, black, or otherwise - wants to put on the uniform and serve in the military.

[Adam]

@Eagle-Keeper

@zantax

@Samm

So what are you saying? That white people might not want to fight for this country?

Seems fairly evident that is the case from recruitment shortfalls.

Virtually NO ONE of this generation - white, black, or otherwise - wants to put on the uniform and serve in the military.

While recruitment has been rough for a while, the idea that we’re not getting recruits is a bit silly. I’m glad you said virtually instead of literally. I do actually appreciate that.

Marines, Air Force on track for 2024 recruiting; Navy projected to miss

[WuWei]

@Samm

There is no doubt that virtually everyone would benefit, at least a little, from the experience

Irrelevant. The right and only question is would the military benefit.

[WuWei]

“Wasted”

[WuWei]

They lowered the goals.

Military times is an F6 source, just so you’ll know.

[Eagle-Keeper]

@Adam

@Eagle-Keeper

@zantax

@Samm

So what are you saying? That white people might not want to fight for this country?

Seems fairly evident that is the case from recruitment shortfalls.

Virtually NO ONE of this generation - white, black, or otherwise - wants to put on the uniform and serve in the military.

While recruitment has been rough for a while, the idea that we’re not getting recruits is a bit silly. I’m glad you said virtually instead of literally. I do actually appreciate that.

Who has said that we are not getting any recruits? Also, I’ve been the one putting out the stats like this:

Department of Defense, polled people ages 16-24 about their likelihood to join the military and why or why not. When asked, “In the next few years, how likely is it that you will be serving in the Military?” 2% replied, “Definitely,” and 7% replied, “Probably.”

I also worked in a high school for over 20 years, and during that time only a handful of my students went or were interested in joining the military.

[Zander]

Good point.

[Zander]

Ask not what your military can do for you, ask what you can do for your military.

[Eagle-Keeper]

I was only aware of three who actually joined. Two females who went in as officers, one Coast Guard, the other Army, and one guy who went into the Marines but got an early discharge.

[Samm]

@johnrandolph

Vietnam? The first US death was too many for that silly project.
As for Korea, the Chinese had relatively unlimited manpower to keep killing as many US troops as we could send. Ike was right to end it.

The sad thing is that shortly after WWII the OSS advised that we align with Ho Chi Minh instead of helping France reestablish their colony in Vietnam, to help keep Mao’s China in check. The whole thing could have been avoided, although admittedly, there is no knowing how that would have turned out either.

[Samm]

@WuWei

@Samm

There is no doubt that virtually everyone would benefit, at least a little, from the experience

Irrelevant. The right and only question is would the military benefit.

If you had looked at the rest of my post you would have seen that I said essentially that.

[zantax]

@Zander

Meh, I disagree.

Whites took the internet thing way too seriously and now assume that if they complain about something on the internet it becomes true. This is especially true of strenuous complaints.

https://www.bloomberg.com/graphics/2023-black-lives-matter-equal-opportunity-corporate-diversity/

[Adam]

@Eagle-Keeper

@Adam

@Eagle-Keeper

@zantax

@Samm

So what are you saying? That white people might not want to fight for this country?

Seems fairly evident that is the case from recruitment shortfalls.

Virtually NO ONE of this generation - white, black, or otherwise - wants to put on the uniform and serve in the military.

While recruitment has been rough for a while, the idea that we’re not getting recruits is a bit silly. I’m glad you said virtually instead of literally. I do actually appreciate that.

Who has said that we are not getting any recruits? Also, I’ve been the one putting out the stats like this:

Department of Defense, polled people ages 16-24 about their likelihood to join the military and why or why not. When asked, “In the next few years, how likely is it that you will be serving in the Military?” 2% replied, “Definitely,” and 7% replied, “Probably.”

I also worked in a high school for over 20 years, and during that time only a handful of my students went or were interested in joining the military.

Jesus, I didn’t say we’re getting no recruits…but you did say virtually NO ONE(and all caps was you) wants to join the armed forces. You didn’t say literally and I said I appreciated that. But what did you mean then? Some services are meeting their goals and some aren’t. How does that fit with “virtually NO ONE” is joining up?

[WuWei]

You don’t know Him.