Female athlete complains about competing against transgender males

[WuWei]

@TheDoctorIsIn

@Paul_Do

The idea that a ma[n] can become a female and them compete fairly with women in any strength/endurance based contest . . .

What does “fair” mean, in this context?

Nice. What does it ever mean.

[SixFoot]

Thankfully, a female infantryman hasn’t had to carry her 300lbs male counterpart off the battlefield yet.

[WuWei]

@Paul_Do

And just anyone who wants fair competitions. I’m stunned this is an actual hill liberals want to fight for. It just seems so delusional imo

What we need is some equity.

[peek-a-boo]

@PAmoderate37

I get that, but is someone going to put boobs on their body and take hormone shots etc, for no other reason than to just compete against women? You can’t just walk up and say I feel like a woman today so I want to compete.

I don’t believe that would be the case. I do see a real issue here. An athletic biological male who really does identify as a woman. They go through the sex change and at some point want to pursue competitive sports. What are their options?

Currently there really aren’t any viable options. My argument is that it wouldn’t be fair to biological females for them to be able to compete in a woman’s sport.

[WuWei]

@Paul_Do

I feel like this should be common sense honestly.

[WuWei]

@Paul_Do

@peek-a-boo

Do you dispute that human biological males are physically stronger than biological females by their nature?

This is the type of ■■■■ that makes liberals look delusional

Progs.

[Eagle-Keeper]

@JayJay

Estimates are the percentage of the population that is transgender is 0.42%.

Is there a scientific requirement that would deny someone who has a philosophical desire to become a woman? In other words, is there a law that would ban someone from this type of procedure?

[WuWei]

@PurpnGold

Should he have been stripped of his medals because he is biologically far more advanced at sprinting than anyone in history?

No, he should be handicapped to address his privilege.

[peek-a-boo]

@JayJay

The sheer disparity in numbers will swamp out whatever physical advantages trans males participating in female sports have.

And yet we here about these cases frequently.

What you are missing are the statistics regarding those second and third tier athletes that never make it to the top. Those very second and third tier male athletes could very well make it to the top of a woman’s sport.

[WuWei]

@TheDoctorIsIn

But the answer has to be more than feelings.

Why?

Feelings are enough for a lot of things. They are enough for a man to feel like a woman.

[Eagle-Keeper]

@PAmoderate37

I get that, but is someone going to put boobs on their body and take hormone shots etc, for no other reason than to just compete against women? You can’t just walk up and say I feel like a woman today so I want to compete.

Is there a law and/or scientific determination to prevent that?

[WuWei]

@FloridaYankee

@PurpnGold

I struggle with this one…

I don’t think society understands transgender enough yet.

I don’t. Let’s simplify it. They are letting men (for all intents and purposes physically) compete in women’s sports.

That’s wrong.

You ain’t Woke.

[WuWei]

@TheDoctorIsIn

@peek-a-boo

What is in play here is that at the highest levels of competition, a male competitor will always be superior to a female competitor. That is a biological fact that can’t be altered.

That really depends on the competition in question, doesn’t it?

Why? Are you going to try to cherry pick sports?

[TheDoctorIsIn]

@WuWei

Feelings are enough for a lot of things.

Most of the time, they’re not enough for me.

I try my best to subject my own beliefs to the same level of scrutiny as I subject beliefs I find repulsive. How else can you know?

[JayJay]

@Eagle-Keeper

@JayJay

Estimates are the percentage of the population that is transgender is 0.42%.

Is there a scientific requirement that would deny someone who has a philosophical desire to become a woman? In other words, is there a law that would ban someone from this type of procedure?

First of all, ask yourself how high the odds are that someone just “wants to become a woman” for whatever reason. This is the same type of argument people used against homosexuals back in the day…that if we “normalized homosexual behavior”, there’d be loads of people who would suddenly want to “convert”.

Second of all, one has to undergo a substantial amount of psychological and medical evaluation before one is allowed to even begin hormone treatments, let alone get a sex change operation. The barriers in place to doing this are high.

I’m not making an argument either in support of or against trans’ competing in women’s sports BTW.

Just that the argument that they would “dominate female sports” and therefore “natural born women” would no longer be able to compete is hyperbole.

[SixFoot]

@JayJay

that if we “normalized homosexual behavior”, there’d be loads of people who would suddenly want to “convert”.

“Bro, let’s get married and move out of the barracks!”

[JayJay]

@peek-a-boo

@JayJay

The sheer disparity in numbers will swamp out whatever physical advantages trans males participating in female sports have.

And yet we here about these cases frequently.

What you are missing are the statistics regarding those second and third tier athletes that never make it to the top. Those very second and third tier male athletes could very well make it to the top of a woman’s sport.

Ask yourself WHY we “talk about these cases frequently”.

Hint…it has to do with an agenda as opposed to the sheer percentage of times it’s happening.

And second/third tier male athletes are not going to flock to become women just so they can be stars in sports.

[WuWei]

@peek-a-boo

@PurpnGold

Should he have been stripped of his medals because he is biologically far more advanced at sprinting than anyone in history?

Of course not.

But should a biological male be allowed to compete at the highest level as a woman in a woman’s sport? Certainly you must see that a woman couldn’t hope to compete with even a mediocre male in a woman’s sport.

A lower level would be worse.

[Jezcoe]

@JayJay

Estimates are the percentage of the population that is transgender is 0.42%.

It looks like an equal split between male transgender and female transgender in that population, so we are talking 0.21% of the population now.

Of that 0.21%, not every one of those males identifying as females will participate in sports. Only 19% of the broader population participate in any athletic activity. A far smaller number of those are good enough to be competitive.

So we are talking a tiny, tiny percentage of the population compared to the number of female identifying as female athletes.

In what way do you think transgenders will come to “dominate female sports”?

The sheer disparity in numbers will swamp out whatever physical advantages trans males participating in female sports have.

This is what I see.

There are a handful of incidents that are amplified for the culture war and to disparage transgender people as a whole.

This is used not as a thoughtful examination of how our society can accommodate the minority of those who have gender dysphoria but instead to use it as a political tool to harken back to the time when America was great and we didn’t have to think about this stuff.

[WuWei]

So as long as it’s not your sport, you’ll tolerate it.