Because who wouldn’t want a society like this.

I remember up until the woke movement started influencing the left most people wanted those that suffer from mental disease to be able to get help not parade them around as the best one can be in public. What’s next murders or pedophilia perhaps as the next great civil rights frontier.

So you vs the WHO, APA, CIHR, and the NHS? How many professionals disagreeing with you does it take to question your beliefs?

Funny you should use that picture. You should watch this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cHTMidTLO60

You’re wrong, but thats okay.

Not all Liberals feel this is fair, in fact most do not.

But, what if a biologic female who now identifies as a male wants to compete against other men?

Is that allowed?

And the argument that Biologic male who identify as female should compete amongst themselves is silly as well. There aren’t that many of them.

The fact of the matter is, these folks have a condition which makes their biologic sex unwelcome and traumatizing. Living life as the other gender can lead to a more peaceful and fulfilling life for that person.

But just like a lot of other conditions, it comes at a cost. One of them should be being unable to compete in sports against your desired gender rather than your birth gender. No separate leagues, no leagues at all. Live a healthy life and enjoy sports as a hobby, but the competitive ship has sailed.

And that goes for Female to Male Trans athletes as well, if only to protect them from injury.

If we are striving for tolerance, that burden goes both ways and the auspices of an unfair advantage only hinders their movement and fuels hatred towards them.

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Agreed, it went from biologically born males have a massive advantage physically to “drag queens offend me and can’t be in public”

Common sense can be applied to trans athletes on a case by case basis but that is banned in schools these days. This should not be an issue but it’s gets both sides bases riled up

Maybe they are women on a mental level.

But hasn’t an argument of feminism in particular been a level playing field?

How can women running a race, let’s say, have competition on an equal playing field when trans women top them in height, muscle mass & upper body strength?

Hormone therapy & surgery cannot reduce natural advantages in physique.

Sex segregated sports doesn’t create a complete level playing field… it might be more level than no segregation at all, but there are still variations in skill. Segregating sports based on sex is based on assumptions that most ciswomen fall into certain physical ranges and likewise with cismen. But as evident by women like Caster Semenya, that assumption isn’t always accurate. That’s why I’m in favor of segregating based on physical measurements and not chromosomal .

Sure it can.

You must not be following the how many different genders your side says we have. In fact I bet someone out there thinks you are bigoted for thinking there are only 3… It’s impossible to be left enough on this issue.

Am the last person who cares if that’s what they want to do.

May the best non-binary win.

No one thinks they are bigoted. The “third gender”, aka non-binary, covers all the others in the spectrum that are male or female.

This is what happens when as a girl, you want to join the BOY Scouts. It is a TWO WAY STREET. Gender equality is equality for all genders is it not?

Because they are not women.
They will never be women. Because they were not born women.
There is nothing transphobic about it. Facts are facts. They can pretend to be women but they are not women.

That is transphobic. Who decides the definition of “woman”?

Your first sentence in not a fact. No one has said anything like that in this thread.
Why not just stick to what is being said?
This should be an issue that gets every person who ever supported women riled up. Once again men are telling women that they don’t matter as much as men. This is not a case by case matter. This is men putting women in their place again and telling them to shut up.

Can’t change what nature has made you. Trans women can just pretend.

1 in 1500 births are children with both sets of reproductive organs.

Nature did that… what is their sex?

Who decides the definition of “woman”?

Lab coats don’t scare me.

Let’s look at it:

refers to the socially constructed roles, behaviors, expressions and identities of” people that “varies from society to society and can change over time” how society interacts with and categorizes individuals.

Socially constructed roles - ok, sort of. But irrelevant to our context. There are both men’s and women’s sports - the roles are the same. Society has also accepted women as bread winners to some extent.

Behaviors?

Expressions? Like what?

Identities - now we’re getting somewhere. Did society construct man as woman?

Do these roles really vary from society to society? Where did which society construct man is woman?

How society interacts with? In this context? I’m not sure what that means. Accepts males giving skull fractures to females as long as there’s a referee?

Categorizes? Society? Or are they mis-categorizing themselves?

Here I thought we were talking about fake women.