What do we think about this?
Is Speaker Mike correct? Should they be fired?
Or does this fall in the realm of legitimate protest and the 1st Amendment?
- Legitimate Protest 1st A Protected
- Fire Them
- Other (explain in post)
What do we think about this?
Is Speaker Mike correct? Should they be fired?
Or does this fall in the realm of legitimate protest and the 1st Amendment?
arrest them all for insurrection
I voted to fire them.
They have a job to do. Go do it and keep your personal beliefs to yourself and out of the workplace.
Protest after hours and on weekends, not on my dime.
Fire them.
They are walking out on the job. They are impacting whatever it is that they are paid to do.
If they were videoed at some after-hours protest, I wouldn’t say they should be fired. That’s on their dime. That’s their right to free speech. But this is a walk-out. Doesn’t matter what the issue is that they are protesting, for the record.
It was stupid to telegraph this plan too.
I’m going to wait to vote until some org intellects show up.
If they were Just Fed Employees at a protest…… fine. No problem.
But if they were marketing their protest as “we’re federal employees and we’re protesting” then fire them. It’s no different than the reason military folks get in trouble wearing a uniform to political protests.
And if they were walking out on paid time to protest, the door can knock them down the steps on their way out it. Bye Felicia.
Fire them, if they want to protest then they can do that in their own time. Take PTO etc for this activity.
They are free to protest but they are not free of consequences from their employer which is the government. They are not being retaliated against by the government for protesting or their political beliefs but will suffer the consequences by their employer for walking out during work time.
This is where I am as well. I voted other because some sources say they plan to take leave. If they aren’t on the clock it’s not a walkout.
Ah okay - If they are using their own time and the PTO/leave is approved then there is no issue.
If they take pre-approved leave, fine.
If they stage a walkout, terminate and prosecute under the statute that prohibits Federal Government strikes.
I say let them go and dock their pay.
If they want to be political…do it on there own time.
I voted legitimate before I was told how to vote and now I have doubts
Agreed. This is how it should be with any job
The fact I am agreeing makes me wonder this will result in the collapse of the space time continuum?
Dogs and cats are starting to live in harmony.
Darn Merit System Principles!
I don’t think they could be fired, legally.
Like others have said, if it was on their own time, protest away, thats their right. I don’t have to agree with a position to support legal protests. Now, if they were “on the clock” or in any way representing their employeer (FedGov) then appropriate disciplinary actions are required.
No. Government workers need to do the business of government, whether it’s marrying a gay couple or droning about the State Department, you have an obligation.
§1918. Disloyalty and asserting the right to strike against the Government
Whoever violates the provision of section 7311 of title 5 that an individual may not accept or hold a position in the Government of the United States or the government of the District of Columbia if he-
(1) advocates the overthrow of our constitutional form of government;
(2) is a member of an organization that he knows advocates the overthrow of our constitutional form of government;
(3) participates in a strike, or asserts the right to strike, against the Government of the United States or the government of the District of Columbia; or
(4) is a member of an organization of employees of the Government of the United States or of individuals employed by the government of the District of Columbia that he knows asserts the right to strike against the Government of the United States or the government of the District of Columbia;
shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than one year and a day, or both.
Probably charge them first under the statute posted by @Safiel. Then upon conviction, use that as grounds for termination.