What you say above, with regard to the Senate expelling a member, was never disputed by me. But your contention that ". . . its highly doubtful they [the Senate] can impeach them [one of their own members] since they are NOT government officers . . " is something to be pursued.
You are correct. The Senate cannot impeach. That power is placed solely in the House. But, the more important question is, can a Senator be impeached, tried and convicted?
When reviewing the making of our Constitution I have found a preponderance of evidence indicating our Founders intended the impeachment process to apply to all those holding a federal office of public trust, and without distinction.
As I previously documented, Hamilton, in explaining the Constitutionâs impeachment provisions, described impeachable offenses as arising from âthe misconduct of public men, or in other words, from the abuse or violation of some public trust.â
And during the South Carolina ratification debates, Gen. CHARLES COTESWORTH PINCKNEY notes: âIf the President or the senators abused their trust, they were liable to impeachment and punishment; and the fewer that were concerned in the abuse of the trust, the more certain would be the punishmentâ.
Moving on to the Massachusetts ratification debates, Gen. BROOKS, (of Medford.) points out, . âThe Senate can frame no law but by consent of the Representatives, and is answerable to that house for its conduct. If that conduct excites suspicion, they are to be impeached, punished, (or prevented from holding any office, which is great punishment.)â
Later on, Mr. Stillman confirms: âAnother check in favor of the people is this â that the Constitution provides for the impeachment, trial, and punishment of every officer in Congress, who shall be guilty of malconduct. With such a prospect, who will dare to abuse the powers vested in him by the peopleâ?
And in the Virginia ratification debates, Randolph in defending the proposed constitution askes: âWho are your senators? They are chosen by the legislatures, and a third of them go out of the Senate at the end of every second year. They may also be impeached. There are no better checks upon earthâ.
Rather than me declaring what our Constitution means, I am one of the few who actually makes a sincere effort to document its meaning as stated during its making, and by those who actually took part in its making.
And that brings me to the following dilemma. I cannot understand how one can truthfully declare, âImpeachment doesnât apply to congress folkâŚâSOURCE, when a preponderance of documented evidence indicates otherwise.
JWK
"The Constitution is the act of the people, speaking in their original character, and defining the permanent conditions of the social alliance; and there can be no doubt on the point with us, that every act of the legislative power contrary to the true intent and meaning of the Constitution, is absolutely null and void. ___ Chancellor James Kent, in his Commentaries on American Law , 1858.