FDA considering ban on flavored e-cigarettes

kind the quandary for this administration, no? they have been for killing a number of safety regs but will probably add this one.

plus, they’re pro (do anything you can to make an extra buck) business.

I am for free market! I use to EVAP and would get continual lung infections, after a chest exam the Oil was getting stuck in my lungs. I quit Vaping immediately. It has taken me almost a yr to recover. I was coughing up oily saliva for months. Do at your own risk like with anything else like CBD or Kratom.

No idea how you managed that one. Been vaping for years, no problems whatsoever. Haven’t had so much as a common cold in over five years.

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Truth. Must be vaping some homemade low grade stuff.

As for this, what a bunch of BS. Yes, kids using e-cigs has gone up, but at the same time their use of actual cigarettes has declined. That’s a good thing. And as for flavors, also BS, kids aren’t the only ones who like flavors, adults do too. And they can’t end it anyway, what are they going to do, outlaw liquid flavoring, because I can just get a flavorless e-liquid and add my own strawberry or whatever other flavor I like and so can kids.

Our bodies react differently to foreign things that enter our body. I am not the only one who had this problem, all doctors consider vaping a form of smoking now. My wife just had her last physical and the doctor asked her if she was still vaping. The side effects are yet to be determined , because EVAP is a newer phenomena, my wife switched to Vap Salts, which is considered a safer process, but I still refrain from it because of the oil base in the juice. I had to stop in fear of getting popcorn lung.

Maybe some of that cheap Chinese stuff? I always get mine from reputable US producers.

Everybody is unique.

Most of my extended family on my mom’s side smoked like fiends for years, to the extent I can still remember most of the brands. :slight_smile: Most smoked Winston’s, but there were a couple of Pall Mall smoker’s and one uncle smoked a pipe.

Not one of them died early and not one of them died from a so-called “smoking related disease.” On the contrary, they all lived into their 80’s and 90’s.

No, it is not a good idea to smoke, but people know the risks and if people want to take the risks, the government should just **** off and mind its own business.

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Thor and LOKI are not low grade EJuices bud. They are actually higher echelon.

Funny how you two do a lot of assuming! I use to do the Space Juice Brand, and the People who made Thor and Loki, both reputable expensive brands.

I agree, but buyer beware…

Then don’t use it. My doctor is perfectly fine with my using it. To quote him, “beats the hell out of smoking cigarettes”.

I’m against it, but Trump is a moderate.

Dems used to have a war on tobacco. I guess they just wanted the taxes.

It started with a cough that would not stop, and tightness in my chest. That article was very informative, thank you for posting it. My Doctor told me I was at risk for this If i didnt stop!

https://reachmd.com/news/how-vaping-could-cause-a-condition-called-popcorn-lung/1612569/

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Yes, my wife breaths much better with e-cigs. E-cigs could have been around for decades had not the FDA stood in the way.

Some of those vap machines put out a lot of glycerin vapor… Probably more than they need to carry the proper nicotine load.

LOL Then your doctor is Full Of Crap! Because no one knows the true long term effects of Vaping, even the FDA admits that. My Doctor and Wife’s Doctor said the process in which the Oil/ Juice is burned , and enters your lungs can do long term damage. He said its like swallowing hot oil in small doses, and having it go down the trachea instead of the throat where oil is intended to go, the oil has no where to expel itself, which can create respiratory problems (I.E Me). The main component of any ejuice is vegetable oil, which not meant to be smoked.

https://reachmd.com/news/how-vaping-could-cause-a-condition-called-popcorn-lung/1612569/

And there is the problem! Cigs are regulated for public health and EVAP’s are not. Vegetable Oil is not meant to be smoked, only ingested.

Trump always talked about commons sense regulations. Clean air and water.

Bunch of crap propaganda, nobody reputable uses diacetyl any more. and no, propylene glycol is not “toxic chemicals” Your source has a financial interest if convincing parents their kids need to be rehabbed if they vape. And not buying the double risk of heart attack based on one study.

from Propylene glycol - Wikipedia

The potential for long-term oral toxicity is also low. In one study, in 1972, 12 rats were provided with feed containing as much as 5% PG over a period of 2 years, and showed no apparent ill effects; no data on offspring were offered.[32] Because of its low chronic oral toxicity, propylene glycol was classified by the U. S. Food and Drug Administration as “generally recognized as safe” (GRAS) for use as a direct food additive, including frozen foods such as ice cream and frozen desserts.[30][33] The GRAS designation is specific to its use in food, and does not apply to other uses.[34]

Inhalation of propylene glycol vapors appears to present no significant hazard in ordinary applications.[36]