Fauci lied, people died

[Samm]

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@Samm

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but isn’t that what happened?

Once our state got up to like 50% vaccinated, things started opening back up and of course we never looked back.

Coincidence is not causation.

huh? They removed teh restrictions because community transmission of COVID nosedived as vaccinations increased.

That’s not a coincidence.

Yes it is. Two things occurring simultaneously or in quick succession is the definition of coincidence.

[tnt]

@Samm

Yes it is. Two things occurring simultaneously or in quick succession is the definition of coincidence.

The lowering of community transmission leading to the roll back of mitigation restrictions is causation. One followed the other.

Had the vaccine not worked, and transmission rates stayed high, they would not have lifted the mitigation restrictions.

Weird thing to argue about.

[WuWei]

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Man!

[WuWei]

Will the re-write never stop!

[WuWei]

They “lifted the mitigations” right before “they” lost consent of the governed.

[WuWei]

Pay wall. How convenient.

[tnt]

@WuWei

Will the re-write never stop!

re write?

That article is from 2020.

[tnt]

@WuWei

Pay wall. How convenient.

Paste it into a private browser.

[tnt]

@WuWei

They “lifted the mitigantions” right before “they” lost consent of the governed.

Will the rewrite never stop!?

[tnt]

@Samm

Yes you did miss the point. In most cases, had it not been for the other maladies, the people would have survived.

I have used the analogy before of a person falling from a tall building and being accidentally shot by someone negligently shooting out a lower floor window at the precise moment that the person flies by. Did the shooter kill the person, or did the fall?

Or, if a person has congestive heart failure and gets a common cold and dies, did they die of the cold, or the heart disease? It seems like Covid was given all the credit that no other disease has ever been awarded.

Since the people who died in the hospital fire were all sick anyway, we didn’t install smoke detectors.

[Munimula1]

No I did not miss the point. They may have had ‘other maladies’- but they were living with them. I guess you are talking about how we could avoid calling their deaths ‘covid’, even though they were alive and doing ok before getting covid. What’s the point? Diabetics took insulin, asthmatics took steroids, heart patients took cardiac meds- and they were OK- until… Why are you willing to discount them as expendable? They were parents, grandparents, family members.

Are you trying to defend your choice not to get vaccinated because you are not one of them? That’s one reason that a lot of them were infected.

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@Munimula1

No I did not miss the point. They may have had ‘other maladies’- but they were living with them. I guess you are talking about how we could avoid calling their deaths ‘covid’, even though they were alive and doing ok before getting covid. What’s the point? Diabetics took insulin, asthmatics took steroids, heart patients took cardiac meds- and they were OK- until… Why are you willing to discount them as expendable? They were parents, grandparents, family members.

Are you trying to defend your choice not to get vaccinated because you are not one of them? That’s one reason that a lot of them were infected.

The man in the ambulance had a bad heart some we didn’t bother putting his seat belt on.

[Munimula1]

In March 2020 (right at the beginning), 3 extended family members who lived together were rushed to the hospital. It was a big story in the local paper. People who were living, working, having birthdays, minding grandchildren. One died within a few days, one never fully recovered and died a few months ago, and one is still living with a lot of post covid issues. They were not young, one was a smoker, one was a diabetic, but they were living life. They didn’t die until they got Covid.
Why should they be written off as expendable? Is it to justify the decision not to get vaccinated? I don’t get it.

[WuWei]

Amazing. The unmitigated gall.

[WuWei]

@Munimula1

but they were living with them.

Until they weren’t.

@Munimula1

They didn’t die until they got Covid.
Why should they be written off as expendable?

No.

You think we get to choose? That man is in control?

[Munimula1]

I think people had health issues that were treatable and survivable.

[tnt]

@Munimula1

In March 2020 (right at the beginning), 3 extended family members who lived together were rushed to the hospital. It was a big story in the local paper. People who were living, working, having birthdays, minding grandchildren. One died within a few days, one never fully recovered and died a few months ago, and one is still living with a lot of post covid issues. They were not young, one was a smoker, one was a diabetic, but they were living life. They didn’t die until they got Covid.
Why should they be written off as expendable? Is it to justify the decision not to get vaccinated? I don’t get it.

People like to hate people.

Believing this was all a lie makes it allowable to hate Fauci.

It’s weird.

[WuWei]

@Munimula1

I think people had health issues that were treatable and survivable.

Diabetes kills 6.7 million people a year world-wide.

[Munimula1]

And lots of people live long and full lives, with medication and diet management. They’re not expendable just because they have a manageable illness.

[WuWei]

6.7 million